I was reading through the vaults of Erowid when I stumbled upon Carbogen, also known as Medunas mixture.

It is a 70:30% mix of oxygen and CO2, respectively. I have been thinking of ways to administer this when I had this thought.

Nitrous is done by cracking open a whipped cream charger into a balloon, via cracker. Well the chargers look a lot like CO2 chargers that I used to use when playing paintball. So... crack a CO2 charger the same way into the balloon?

To high of CO2 levels can be very dangerous to your body, and should never be 100% of your breath. So what if I were to take most of a breath, and then finish it with the CO2 in the balloon?

Thoughts?

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Carbogen is known as a panicogen, which means in most people the mixture will cause you to panic, or have other unwanted effects.

I have no idea how pure of CO2 is in paintball cartridges, so this unknown should be kept in mind.

Has anyone ever had any experience? There are few subjective effects of Carbogen, and even fewer "field reports" on it.

Also, if anyone has an idea as to how safe/unsafe this would be, PLEASE post your thoughts. It is hard to make an informed decision with such little information that is out there regarding carbogen.

CO2 is quite toxic to maybe even lethal in concentrations above 5%, so we'd normally discourage such talks here... In places where high levels of CO2 are produced (such as in breweries as a by-product of alcoholic fermentation) installations for proper ventilation are required by law.

Also, as you describe it, it's a mix of 70% oxygen, 30% carbon dioxide; I don't know how you can get such a ratio with CO2 from canisters mixed with air (which is 80% nitrogen and 20% oxygen ). Add into mix the apparent toxicity of pure oxygen as well then that topic's really a no-no for the nexus.