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Orion
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#1 Posted : 12/18/2011 10:40:59 PM
The Idea here is to give out my idea and recieve any feedback in order to create a sort of 'tek', if possible, for creating a pharma tincture, with reference tables for quantities for the creation of the tincture, how to prepare and correct dosage and labelling.

The reason I find the concept so desirable is because it is so convenient. I'd take mushrooms in the woods or travel to a good friends house and do the same. I'd love to do the same with aya or pharma, but without the scales, products, hassle and time needed. I understand that's part of the fun, but so is creating a super concentrated crimson tincture of the gods...

So anyway, I have never actually made on before and I can only hazard guesses here. I have two vials, one 30ml and one I think is 60ml.

Here is my theoretical measurements for the creation of such a tincture.

30ml liquid= 15 doses, which is 1g dmt, 2 dropper fulls (my dropper = 1ml) so for this you need to dissolve 3g harmalas into the whole thing, so each 2 dropfulls will be 200mg harmalas and 66.6mg DMT (which is a nice dose for me).

It's a lot to dissolve, but acid (distilled vinegar) would be able to do that, no? Or would alcohol be better? What do you think about these volumes? It's hard for me to explain the maths behind this, I found each volume or weight is dependent on another. There should be simple formulas for this.

A weaker version for example would be again 30ml, 30 doses (double the previous), 1 dropper this time (halved form the previous), 1g DMT, but 6g harmalas (double the previous ) (always 200mg needed for each one dose). DMT per dose would be 33.3mg.

A really strong one, 30ml, 30 doses, 3 dropper fulls for the dose of 99.9mg dmt. 1g dmt in there again in total, but this time just 2g of harmalas are needed for the solution.

These are theoretical measurements, but if these quantities will indeed dissolve into that amount of solution this should work perfectly?

Of course with formulas for the working out of measuring, one can fill a table for their own preference.

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q21q21
#2 Posted : 12/19/2011 1:41:45 AM
From my experiments harmine in vinegar is max 35-40mg/ml and harmaline is maybe 50-60mg/ml max. That is only 1 manske and 1 freebase precipitation/separation though.

DMT is a lot more soluble. White DMT being >200mg/ml and Jimjam being >250mg/ml

That is how I store my harmine, harmaline and DMT, btw. It is very stable and so easy to measure.
Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMT
The 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.

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jamie
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#3 Posted : 12/19/2011 5:11:13 AM
I was thinking about this earlier..good job!
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