^ so does that mean that people taking supplements are not getting the full spectrum of what is concidered "Vitamin D" if they are only taking D3? How do they get away with calling that vitamin D if that is the case? Long live the unwoke.
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^^Not really; when you buy a supplement its good to know which of the 2 you're getting because the term 'Vitamin D' in commercial preps could be either D2 or D3: 1.Vit D3 is made by the action of UV on the skin; D2 is not synthesised by humans hence D3 is more 'natural'; 2.D3 binds the receptors more strongly than D2, so you need higher blood levels of D2 to do the same job and this could have implications for toxicity; 3.D3 is more stable than D2 and has a longer shelf-life; 4.Most trials have been done with D3; 5.D3 also has a longer half-life than D2. So, fans of OTC vitamin D, go for D3 if given the choice-or at least question the vendor if the label simply says 'Vitamin D' so you know which you are getting. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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ahhh okay..so what I get out of that is that D2 is not really vitamin D at all. Is this D2 only really found to be used as vitamin D in synthetic supplements? Could you not in reality just assume that the true vitamin D is the D3 then if that is what our body actauly produces as the D vitamine? I am sort of confused as to how they come to the conclusion that they can market something as vitamin D if it is not in reality vitamin D? Is this sort of like cyanocobalamin vs methylcobalamin? I mean cyanocobalamin is not really B12(as in the natural form of B12 the way the human body uses it) as I understand it, yet it is cheaper to manufacture it compared to methylcolalamine so many companies sell the cyanocobalamin as B12 instead..and from what I read cyanocobalamin has actaully caused problems such as blindness when given to patients as IV injection in larger doses..whereas that problem does not occure with methylcobalamin.. Long live the unwoke.
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Ginkgo wrote:Why take vitamin D pills when all you need to produce vitamin D is to expose your skin to sun? This is just big pharma trying to be even bigger pharma, if you ask me... Winter and "your sun ain't my sun" meaning there are multiple factors involved such as latitude, exposure surface, time of exposure (day/hour), ... Calculator and notes. 6 and a half months of supplementations (5K per day) costs you 9$ so not much money there in my opinion. Global: My math 1000 micrograms = 1 milligram, 1mcg 40 UI 10 400 100 4000 1000 40000 Why would this be wrong ? The original post mentiones doses in UI not miligrams and I haven't seen supplements (D3) being in miligrams. Link us ? Got GVG ? Mhm. Got DMT ? Pandora wrote:Nexus enjoys cutting edge and ongoing superior programming skills of the owner of this site (The Traveler), including recent switching to the .me domain name. I'm still, I'm still Jenny from the block Simon Jester wrote:"WTF n00b, buy the $100 vapor pipe or GTFO" Ignorance of the law does not protect you from prosecution
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fractal enchantment wrote:ahhh okay..so what I get out of that is that D2 is not really vitamin D at all. Is this D2 only really found to be used as vitamin D in synthetic supplements? Could you not in reality just assume that the true vitamin D is the D3 then if that is what our body actauly produces as the D vitamine? I am sort of confused as to how they come to the conclusion that they can market something as vitamin D if it is not in reality vitamin D?
Is this sort of like cyanocobalamin vs methylcobalamin? I mean cyanocobalamin is not really B12(as in the natural form of B12 the way the human body uses it) as I understand it, yet it is cheaper to manufacture it compared to methylcolalamine so many companies sell the cyanocobalamin as B12 instead..and from what I read cyanocobalamin has actaully caused problems such as blindness when given to patients as IV injection in larger doses..whereas that problem does not occure with methylcobalamin.. D2 is derived from a yeast and does work in humans but is in some ways inferior to D3 which is the natural version.Both are regarded as legit Vitamin D but the differences between the two are worth knowing about. There are similarities Frac with B12 as you mention.To complicate things further, B12 is often given as an IM injection and the prep used is HYDROXOCOBALAMIN!  I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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fractal enchantment wrote:^ I agree. I mean we never needed them before we had them. If you eat the way humans are designed to eat and spent time outdoors I dont think you should need vitamine D supplents..unless maybe you live in the arctic..I don't really think people evolved to live in the arctic so there might be some problems there with vitamine D either way with like months of darkness and no sunlight.
This is just like the RDA for vitamin C. It is ridiculous. Chimps get like 10g a day sometimes with a diet leaning towards fruitarian..when I see 100 or even 500mg vitamin C supplements I think deficiency. Even 1g of vitamin C is not enough if that is how you are trying to get the stuff. People need to learn what real food is about. The RDA for vitamin C is so low that people just cant be living in full health with such low amounts. The RDA is like the bare minimum needed to get by. You can get liquid Vitamin D that you can take Sublingualy. I find it works the best by far. Also even drugs that aren't 'orally' bio available are usually orally bio available to a degree. If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
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corpus callosum wrote:For a Caucasian they say that 15 minutes of decent sunlight exposure/day is enough to provide the amount of vitamin D required per day.
Its important to be aware that Vitamin D actually comprises of Vit D3 ie CHOLECALCIFEROL and Vit D2 ie ERGOCALCIFEROL; replacement therapy usually consists of D3.
And yes, 1mcg of Vitamin D3=40iu. The also say that in the places as far north as Boston you can't make any Vitamin D for about 5 months out of the year because the sun's angle is just wrong. If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
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joedirt wrote:corpus callosum wrote:For a Caucasian they say that 15 minutes of decent sunlight exposure/day is enough to provide the amount of vitamin D required per day.
Its important to be aware that Vitamin D actually comprises of Vit D3 ie CHOLECALCIFEROL and Vit D2 ie ERGOCALCIFEROL; replacement therapy usually consists of D3.
And yes, 1mcg of Vitamin D3=40iu. The also say that in the places as far north as Boston you can't make any Vitamin D for about 5 months out of the year because the sun's angle is just wrong. I wonder if they have any significant statistical differences in rates of skin cancer in Boston vs. New York City for example. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
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Felnik wrote:Vitamin D is a huge thing for me personally
I take it every day . I notice major mood problems when I
Stop taking it for a few days .
My natural Dr had a patient that was literally suicidal
From low levels of vitamin D You're imagining that. Serum D levels do not fluctuate on a daily basis - it would take several weeks to months for any deficiency symptoms to arise. Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon.
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