Hey guys,

SWIM have much experience with nn-dmt, A love of psychadelics and not a lot of money. I also love reptiles and animals. I know a safe least stressful way to catch them, but where exactly are they?

SWIM lives in las vegas and i have heard they are in lake mead, but not sure. I have also heard they are in the grand canyon.

Any input on where i can catch them near las vegas?

Thanks guys,

SWIM

I haven't swam for a long time. That sounds like a pleasant way to spend an afternoon.

I've been told since toad venom contains other toxic alkaloids that they do not make a good smoke.

My personal experience with the venom was not great. I had no visuals, just "white-out" conditions, which came on full force even faster than dmt. I worked my way up in dose in small increments, and eventually reached a dose that consistently produced large quantities of sweat and dry heaving, still no visuals, just white-out. I gave up, no dose was good or fun for me.

well honestly i have no interest in using 5meo or bufoteine, I have a large supply of NN-DMT.I just want a toad and i know they can be found near me. Can anyone else tell me if they are found near me (Las Vegas)?

Why do you want to take the bufo from his natural life then ?
Sorry to sound harsh but, don't you think they would prefer to stay free of moves, meeting and death rather than being trapped in a glass tank ?
I ask you and I've had a lot of pets, reptiles included in my child/teenagehood but now I feel more concerned about their will than ever.
I know bufo alvarius sound attracting for anyone working with tryptamine, but I'd rather go there and milk to smoke some 5MeO-DMT organic than contemplating a caged toad...

..i agree with rOm that it is unethical & cruel to exploit animals/reptiles..
lucky for b. alvarius, it has a few defenses, as i posted on another thread:
[re: the body of the toad]


when a toad exudes venom it is usually highly stressed & worried for its life...

Thats great and all, but I respect animals, and yes its a defense mechanism. But this isn't a PETA discussion so relax. Realize I grew up in las vegas catching horny toads, lizards, scorpions, crawfish, etc. I love animals and psychadelics. So thanks for staying on topic and answering my question. If i wanted 5meo or bufoteine i would aquire it another way. But i don't because they suck. So if your not gonna answer the question on topic, take your discussion to a PETA meeting as I'm sure they would wanna hear your opinions as I don't.


So once again so I can have a pet psychadelic toad in which i will name tryptamine ;p, can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,
Brandon

there is nothing in your first posting to suggest a sensitive approach to toads.. the language could easily be interpreted as exploitive..maybe that's why you're not getting the answers you want..different opinions is one of the things that makes the nexus great..
ps. in Australia they can't get rid of enough of 'em..

If you dont want people to respond with an opinion, then why post at all? Amphibians like frogs and toads are becomming more and more scarse on the planet. This has been an ongoing topic amongst biologists for a while now..they are dissapearing. I think people have every reason to question someone who wants to just go take a toad from it's natural environment to put into a glass box, when you dont even have a reason to capture the thing other than you want it as a trophy on your shelf.

Please, leave the wildlife alone. What you are suggesting is highly selfish behaviour. How would you like to be placed in a little glass box on some other animals shelf? Get a dog or a cat.

Catching animals for food etc is one thing. Catching them for use as pets, that you cant even walk like a dog or a cat etc just seems so selfish.

There is most likely wildlife laws in place as well that prohibit against doing this..especially in a park like the grand canyon.

No problem I shall find the toads, as righteous as you all act on this forum, I guarantee you do not live that way. I am not perfect but I am a good dude, I know because people tell me. It is wrong to stress the toad and milk its venom. However who the fuck even likes bufoteine or 5meo? No one. A 100 gallon aquarium is not a glass box. So all you self righteous individuals out there, take a look at the way your living and then judge me. Because straight up I know most of you are unhealthy physically, mentally and even spiritually, because everyone is somewhat. For you to tell me not to catch a toad is ridiculous. I'm not responding anymore. Good day to you.

http://klemow.wilkes.edu/disappearing-frogs.html

Concidering these amphibians are becomming more scarse..can we please NOT encourage the capturing of them from they're natural environments? I seriousily hope noone here is going to encourage this when you weigh the pros and cons.

brandon702..half the things i've posted here someone's disagreed with..i think you should chill out..
if there wasn't a place for ethics/philosophy on this site i wouldn't be here...

fractal enchantment's replies have been great. I respectfully and firmly suggest that you immediately and slowly review the following document brandon702, 'cause it appears to me you may have missed this when you first signed up:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me.../default.aspx?g=attitude