According to the packet, it was the ISI cream charger (cartridges said Austria). This is nitrous, as shown here isi.at/consumer/products/chargers/en/ . The co2 ones are the soda and beer chargers. It could only be co2 if the wrong chargers were put in the pack, and that seems unlikely.

Wikipedia says that with co2 "At about 8% it causes headache, sweating, dim vision, tremor and loss of consciousness after exposure for between five and ten minutes", but SWIM experienced none of these effects, and if they were co2 he wouldve been averaging 50% co2 over 5 minutes, or 25% over 10! So I don't think they could've been co2?

After an internet search I found one dental forum where one poster said that nitrous doesn't work on some patients, no matter how much you give them. But this is just one post, and there's no reports on Erowid of people complaining that it didn't work for them, which is usually a common thing when that's an issue. Hence my confusion.

As for the OP's original question... SWIM's view is that if a substance isn't dangerous, unpleasant or addictive, try it!

First report I heard of no or little effect to that extent.

Give it a try I blew 40 bucks got about 10 out or 24 left. About 8 good head rushes with minor autiority effects. About 3 accidental discharges baloon blew off, havent used cracker in 20years, baloon had holes after 5 uses ect....

I will save the rest for use in combo with something else. Its pretty weak in mini charger. Better at the dentist cost 75bucks once 95 another. At least then its conttinious no audio effects but very relaxing and the dental assistants gals big blue/green eye magnified thru her magnifing googles was pretty cool for over 2 hours.

But the bone grafts and multipule oral surgries and paying 15grand for 2 dental implants realy sucked took almost 16months.

To sum it up nitrous is ok.. in combo or if you got a tank. Dont expect much from whiped cream charges and baloons.
And remember inhaling any gas has real dangers but is pretty safe if you have common sense and no mental imparement weather it be a walking tryptamine trance of some type or just good old fashioned intoxication.

M.V.

Its fun- I have had one for years now. In heavy doses its more of a delusional than anything else. Also you do build up a tolerance for it after a while. There is a place in Philly that you can actually buy a filled tank.

On its own its definitely a party drug - gets you mildly high for about 30 seconds.

In conjunction with MJ the euphoria is much stronger I get pronounced auditory hallucinations such as echoing and the sound for the TV appearing to come from the wall etc.

On the peak of an acid experience it took me about 2 hours to get my head around the fact that the Nitrous had worn off, but I was still tripping - caused a lot of confusion that was not that pleasant.

On MDMA the effects seem to dulled possibly due to the stimulant effects of the E.

On K it can defintely intensify the high (not suprising as they are both disassociatives). I need a lot less K if I've had a balloon or 2 of Nitrous prior to snorting the K.

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I'm quite surprised at the lack of Nitrous oxide threads on this forum.

The collected balloon experiences i've had have been amongst my 'most significant' experiences in attempting to further understand the nature of the universe and our relative location within it.

A lot of people don't seem to get very much psychedelic effects from them, but i personally think this is because they're not inhaling enough. ( i've noticed some people just aren't compatible no matter how much they do though)

Like the spice, there's the equivalent of a breakthrough threshold.

When i have one charger, i just get the buzzing and the aural distortion, but when i have 2 (occasionally 3, ) loaded into 1 balloon the effects are amazing. (always sit down for more than 1)

I became so curious about the nature of these experiences, that over time, i tried to develop a lucid state within them as a means of actually extracting and de-scrambling the ineffable 'input' your brain is experiencing.

The key and most rec curing message i experience and take back from balloons is the reminder that the universe is infinitely more complex than we could ever imagine. every time i have these balloons its like a reminder that even when you think you've grasped 'it',the actual complexity and levels and sub levels is beyond comprehension.

I think most importantly though, the fact that it presents this stuff with an undertone of humour and play-ful'ness is pretty cool. using the analogy of a spirit and a mixer, my nos experiences feel like rather than a dry highly concentrated informative assualt, it sort of adds a humorous mixer to the equation so its not completely bitter, but still highly 'potent' in it's content.

I strongly believe that significant amounts of nos, when inhaled correctly, can drastically increase your entire perception of the frequency spectrum the universe contains/is. learning to learn from it is the challenge though as either all, or part of the received data doesn't seem to be 'readable' when you arrive back.

Apologies if this post comes across in any way self-indulgent, (i would love a balloon right now though! ) but i just genuinely feel that a lot of people underestimate the true potential nos has for us to learn from it.


Healthy and safety reminder : Although i believe its an extremely useful tool which you can learn to apply in unimaginable ways, Continual inhalation of large amounts of nos, is not good for your brain at all. enjoy safely and responsibly!

A friend of mine who first introduced me to DMT said his favorite thing to do is take a good hit of DMT (not too good) and then before blasting off hit the balloon. I haven't tried it yet.. not sure why? I kinda forgot about it until I just read this thread.

I've not tried it but i can understand why.

As i read in either this, or another thread when i searched,
I think if you're sub breakthrough, it'll be worth it to give you an extra push, but if you've had enough spice already it would be pretty pointless as you'll already be way out there and for longer than the balloon would last.

Something to look into first hand anyway.

William James accomplished some very important things with n20 he bought it was worth while... So does swim.

KI enjoy doing nitrous on occasion. It's fun once in awhile, as long as you don't get all cracked out on it. Just got to make sure you eat good if you go binging on N2O.

From Wikipedia:

Nitrous oxide inactivates the cobalamin form of vitamin B12 by oxidation. Symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency, including sensory neuropathy, myelopathy, and encephalopathy, can occur within days or weeks of exposure to nitrous oxide anesthesia in people with subclinical vitamin B12 deficiency. Symptoms are treated with high doses of vitamin B12, but recovery can be slow and incomplete. People with normal vitamin B12 levels have sufficient vitamin B12 stores to make the effects of nitrous oxide insignificant, unless exposure is repeated and prolonged (such as recreational use). Vitamin B12 levels should be checked in people with risk factors for vitamin B12 deficiency prior to using nitrous oxide anesthesia. Chronic nitrous oxide B12 poisoning (usually from use of nitrous oxide as a recreational drug), however, may result in B12 functional deficiency even with normal measured blood levels of B12.

That only really occurs if you're doing it frequently or for long periods of time. It certainly is moarish but if can be fantastic when combined with other psychedelics and cannabis. My most meaningful experiences on drugs have been with nitrous. It kicks my ego out the door (even with one balloon while high) and as I come back all of my life is appreciated fully. One of my friends reported walking through a snow covered forest after doing two balloons while high. It can most certainly be a great entheogen.

I just posted a report on BL about a nitrous and salvia combo but it seems relevant so I'll repost that here for some more feedback.

T-0.30: Two bowls of Marijuana
T+0.00: 60 mg 10x Salvia
T+0.00.30: 1 Whippet

I’m an 18 year old incoming college freshman. Over the past year I started doing drugs and have tried a pretty decent number of psychedelics since then. I have experience with Shrooms, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MPT, DPT, DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 2C-C, 2C-I, 2C-T-2, DOC, Ketamine, Nitrous, and Salvia. I’m in as good health as you can be without exercising regularly. I’m 6” and slender, weighing in at 135 lbs. I can easily walk ten miles, run one, or bike twenty, however I only frequently walk long distances. I smoke weed a few times a week and tripped three times in the week prior to this experience on 2C-T-2, 5-MeO-MiPT, and 2C-C. I last did Nitrous a few days before. Typically when I do Nitrous I do somewhere from 1-3 whippets.

A few nights ago, after a fantastic Flaming Lips concert, I planned on doing Salvia concurrently with Nitrous while high. I hadn’t smoked or done anything else at the concert. The reason for this experiment was to see if I could find a more enjoyable way of doing Salvia. By itself I just feel stupid and confused, see fractal based visuals, and feel an uncomfortable prickly body high. I’d tried Salvia three times before, once at 30 mg, another at 50 mg, and a last at 100 mg. Nitrous when combined with weed propels me into an empty space where I am incredibly grateful of all the good things in my life. I have done Nitrous at least 20 times. I figured the weed and the Nitrous would be enough to overpower the annoying body high but not too much as to take away from the visual and mental oddities.

I had just split 2 deep bowls with 4 other people, I was pleasantly stoned and looking forward to what I was about to do. A few of my friends hit their whippets and I waited for the spot in the hammock to clear. While doing this I packed a bowl with 10x Salvia, two pinches, around 60 mg. I was using a homemade wooden chillum that burns very hot and cherries very easily.

I got everything ready and moved to the hammock. I had Erol Alkan’s rework of Tame Impala’s “Why Won’t You Make Up Your Mind” queued on my iPod, a comfy hat, one balloon of nitrous, my chillum, and a desire to lose my mind. I hit the salvia: spark the lighter, put it to the herb, breathe in the harsh earthy smoke and then a small gasp of air. I checked the bowl and saw it was still lit, and took another toke without letting my first one out. In the next 20 seconds I had transitioned from the rather benign weed high to a supremely stupid salvia one. As I reached for my balloon I began to feel the uncomfortable body high that salvia produces in me. It is very prickly, like my skin is too tight or my muscles are segmented like citrus and trying to move. Each part of my body feels as if is tugging on another, whether I move or not. The weed high dulls this some and it is bearable.

I know that in the next 10 seconds I’ll be unable to hit the balloon so I exhale after about 30 seconds total and quickly inhale the entire whippet. I hear a whoosh as I’m propelled into the void. For the first minute the nitrous overpowered the Salvia, I was no longer. Life was no longer. Nothing was or ever was. The concept of nothing didn’t exist as there were no concepts of anything at all. The state that was (for I could not be in it) was not anything; there was no fear, no happiness, just emptiness. As I came back I began to remember the people I love and why I should be happy about the life I live.

Then the music hit me. I love the song I was playing, it is one of my favorites. I’m still feeling the pure rush of euphoria from the Nitrous and now the Salvia is regaining some control. I start hearing notes that I know don’t actually exists in the song, the song is sparkling and glowing as the music forms into what I would call a music video in my head. I was seeing a quickly moving sunrise made out of different colored images of sunrises in the fashion where certain images make up a larger image. A collage of sorts I guess you would call it.

I felt like I was being pulled through this music video. The pulling sensation was like playing a rail shooter, you can look around but never really control where your body takes you. I saw people I cared about moving in circles like a pin wheel (with tracers of there bodies) while walking upside down on a grassy surface. I know I had other visuals but I can’t remember them a few days afterwards. I might have had a visual of people doing flips and leaving tracers of rainbows behind them but that might have been a dream from that night. It was very fractal oriented, due to the Salvia, and also contained many nature aspects.

Nearly four or five minutes after first hitting the salvia I managed to get up off the hammock. Lucid enough to walk around with out stumbling but still having some trouble moving, I headed over towards my friends. Sitting up and down was one hard motion and I landed on a wooden seat more heavily than expected. I zoned out for a few more minutes feeling great and stupid before telling my friends a bit about what I had experienced. After another 30 minutes I was only feeling the tale end of a weed high.

The combination was great; it was intense, both visually and mentally. The body high from the combination was very pleasant, no prickling noted. I certainly prefer it to Salvia alone because of the abolishment of that annoying body high. Compared to solely Nitrous it was much weirder. When I get visuals from Nitrous it is always very realistic situations. The visuals themselves were realistic and not cartoony but the things I was seeing were not. A few days later I noticed that the Salvia did lead to some extra light alteration in my HPPD.

If anything is unclear or if there's a typo let me know and I'll try to fix it up.

Also here's a bit of a report about 4-AcO-DMT which includes a part about nitrous.

T+2.40: Still peaking I hit two whippets out of two separate balloons. Closing my lips around them felt as if I had done nitrous alone (up to 3 balloons in succession), nitrous and marijuana (up to 6 in succession), and nitrous and shrooms (during that occasion I did two after I was coming down resulting in an underwhelming experience) before. AG had done two just before me with a glowing report. I hit them, closed my eyes, and dissolved into a familiar but different place. I felt like I was floating in nothing but instead of being surrounded by blackness I was surrounded by vibrant colors. I was still connected to my body and began talking about my feelings, the realization for the first time in the night that I was done with semester exams, into college, and in a damn good place in my life. My sense of self and awareness of surroundings had been pretty much lost for the entire night and the nitrous kicked any remnants out of the hypothetical house they resided in. My ego came back as the effects of the nitrous went away. As I came down my trip was accompanied by a sense of profound euphoria that lasted for around 25 minutes.

Full thing http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=89471

Are there nsfw tags? I couldnt figure it out but kinda want to hide that huge chunk of text.

If you die without experiencing a hit of laughing gas on acid or mushrooms you missed out on something special.