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a substitute of b. caapi/ Syrian Rue Options
 
lessless
#1 Posted : 7/14/2011 11:17:16 AM
Hello! In my country both mentioned plants are illegal. I found on wikipedia, that S. Rue is belong to Nonselective MAO-A/MAO-B Inhibitors group.
There are also other plants avaible and the are not forbidden Twisted Evil HAHA!!!
I more love flow of peroral taken dmt, than smoking one. What can use to substitute b. caapi or syrian rue in the brew and how much can i use?
For dmt i have choose Acacia Confusa.
Before i did 10g MHRB/ 50g B. caapi.
 
bindu
#2 Posted : 7/14/2011 2:22:00 PM
passion flower is supposed to contain b-carbolines in small amounts

Vestia foetida also has some
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lessless
#3 Posted : 7/14/2011 6:04:18 PM
I googled that it is not possible because of small amount of alcaloids it have.
Looks like i just fooled myself with false hope Sad
 
Seraph
#4 Posted : 7/14/2011 6:11:01 PM
I'm assuming you're in France? You could try to get a prescription for anti-depressant MAOIs like Moclobemide.
 
lessless
#5 Posted : 7/14/2011 6:24:23 PM
Look what people have to offer - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoi#List_of_MAOI, i think it is possible to reach some.
But what to choose to avoid all other than IMAO effects, and what dosage to use to substitute 50g of b. caapi ?
Thanks my friend! No. i'm from Ukraine.
p.s. link insertion is a kind of broken in this case Smile
 
BecometheOther
#6 Posted : 7/14/2011 7:02:38 PM
I dont know lessless, but I do wish you the best of luck..

Can you get mushroom spores, i mean its not dmt or ayahuasca, but its close Pleased and no MAOI's necessary, and you could have a constant supply of your own bloomers.

I feel for you though man, good luck
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lessless
#7 Posted : 7/14/2011 7:26:56 PM
Harmalosa wrote:
I dont know lessless, but I do wish you the best of luck..

Can you get mushroom spores, i mean its not dmt or ayahuasca, but its close Pleased and no MAOI's necessary, and you could have a constant supply of your own bloomers.

I feel for you though man, good luck

i talked to them both, they are not agree!
 
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#8 Posted : 7/14/2011 7:44:05 PM
Tribulus terristris is great for males. It's entrancing like harmalas and also boosts testosterone.
 
lessless
#9 Posted : 7/15/2011 2:01:40 PM
thanx, looking exactly what i need.
Actually Aya helped to solve my depression last summer after surgery when my leg wath broken. And there is still a plate in the bone, which will be puted out this autumn and its another surgery. And all i want is to have a power of Aya, maybe two weeks before surgery, and definitly few weeks or month after. So, thanx, it can helps me a lot.
 
nen888
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#10 Posted : 7/15/2011 3:12:59 PM
..some Jasmine spp. IIRC contain betacarbolines. Smaller amounts alkaloids not problem if can source large amount
plant material..climbing & night jasmines were ,i seem to recall, among the candidates.
always meant to follow this one up..(get back to u if i get details..)
these'd be hard to make illegal if one worked...

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Tribulus terristris is great for males. It's entrancing like harmalas and also boosts testosterone.

ps HouseWink , where's a few good tribulus reports i can check out?
 
lessless
#11 Posted : 7/15/2011 3:20:13 PM
sure, thanx.

۩, maxzar100, reports here https://www.dmt-nexus.me...x?g=posts&m=230968, that T.T. can't be used in Ayahuasca brew in amount of 32g. Maybe 50g will work ?
 
Felnik
#12 Posted : 7/15/2011 4:59:55 PM
Check out Russian olive It might be growing in your area
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Dorge
#13 Posted : 7/15/2011 7:27:04 PM
Tribulus terrestrius has been tried many many times by many people to no avail. I do not beleive it is effective as a maoi for tryptamines.
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nen888
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#14 Posted : 7/16/2011 12:51:52 PM
..yeah, i've never had a first hand account of a successful brew with tribulus (love to hear one..)

Trachelospermum jasminoides
(also known as Star Jasmine, not a true jasmine) contains betacarbolines and has
possibly displayed harmaline infloresence under UV. Still seaching for details..
..passionflower does work but you need 500grams per person (which, at herbalist prices, is expensive)..grow...
 
Seraph
#15 Posted : 7/16/2011 1:58:55 PM
Did the authorities of Ukraine really see syrian rue seeds as a massive threat to their society?

A Politician of Ukraine: 'The big problem drug of these times is not meth, cocaine or heroin, it is syrian rue seeds. The devastation caused to people's lives by the use of syrian rue seeds is horrific, syrian rue seeds have been linked to schizophrenia and they cause horrific hallucinations. The rue junkies of Ukraine are like zombies in the streets of Ukraine, a 'hit' of rue costs the equivalent of 15 US dollars and is called 'Reese's Pieces' by dealers. The rue addicts of Ukraine usually turn to prostitution to fund their rue habits, some say rue is a bigger threat than heroin to drug abusers in Ukraine. This is why the government of Ukraine saw it as necessary to ban this nasty drug before it destroys the lives of the children of Ukraine.'
 
Red Eclipse
#16 Posted : 7/16/2011 3:56:29 PM
Seraph wrote:
Did the authorities of Ukraine really see syrian rue seeds as a massive threat to their society?

A Politician of Ukraine: 'The big problem drug of these times is not meth, cocaine or heroin, it is syrian rue seeds. The devastation caused to people's lives by the use of syrian rue seeds is horrific, syrian rue seeds have been linked to schizophrenia and they cause horrific hallucinations. The rue junkies of Ukraine are like zombies in the streets of Ukraine, a 'hit' of rue costs the equivalent of 15 US dollars and is called 'Reese's Pieces' by dealers. The rue addicts of Ukraine usually turn to prostitution to fund their rue habits, some say rue is a bigger threat than heroin to drug abusers in Ukraine. This is why the government of Ukraine saw it as necessary to ban this nasty drug before it destroys the lives of the children of Ukraine.'



where do you find this shit?
 
lessless
#17 Posted : 7/17/2011 5:19:27 PM
Seraph, dude, come visit my homeland, i show you evertyhing Pleased
Our president becamed a person which was two twimes convicted for robbery, and decree was signed january 4th ( i think it was done with intent).
 
DMTripper
#18 Posted : 7/18/2011 1:53:50 AM
Seraph wrote:
....
A Politician of Ukraine: 'The big problem drug of these times is not meth, cocaine or heroin, it is syrian rue seeds. The devastation caused to people's lives by the use of syrian rue seeds is horrific, syrian rue seeds have been linked to schizophrenia and they cause horrific hallucinations. The rue junkies of Ukraine are like zombies in the streets of Ukraine, a 'hit' of rue costs the equivalent of 15 US dollars and is called 'Reese's Pieces' by dealers. The rue addicts of Ukraine usually turn to prostitution to fund their rue habits, some say rue is a bigger threat than heroin to drug abusers in Ukraine. This is why the government of Ukraine saw it as necessary to ban this nasty drug before it destroys the lives of the children of Ukraine.'


Don't tell me this was in the media! WTF!
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