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kyrolima
#1 Posted : 5/15/2011 5:47:01 PM
PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: neurotic, eager to trip
(physical condition) Set: ok
Setting (location): home
time of day: 13:07 PM
recent drug use: some ganja a few days before
last meal: potatoes

PARTICIPANT
Gender: m
body weight: 60
known sensitivities:
history of use: experienced

BIOASSAY

Substance(s): DMT fumarate, DMT freebase, Caapi Extract
Dose(s): 80 20 320
Method of administration: dissolved in multijuice


EFFECTS

Administration time: T=13:07
Duration: (5 hours)
First effects: 1 hour
Peak: T+2 h
Come down: T+4
Baseline: T+5

Intensity (overall): 4
Evaluation / notes: 4

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 2
Implesantness: 2
Visual Intensity: 4


AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: 2
Afterglow: 3




REPORT

Allright
This one was special, i never had something like this, where I was in different places all over the world.
I remember scenes in very poor countries, a black woman gving me bread out of generosity. Those scenes were short, but very alive. It was almost like I was there for real.

Some completely different scene was this:
I watched an alien making love with a woman. They both were beautiful. I was kind of out of time. I could see the newborn right after they made love. It was done on purpose: Free will choice to create a hybrid.
I imagine that in the near future something like this could happen. Pleased

But i also had many scenes about the poorness, the suffering and the horrible circumstances people in africa, i.e. live by.
Altogether, it made me cry about myself, about the methods people are using in order to reach what they want. Like this polarity: western world rich, poor regions starve. I was never that emphatic towards that subject.



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Global
Moderator | Skills: Music, LSDMT, Egyptian Visions, DMT: Energetic/Holographic Phenomena, Integration, Trip Reports
#2 Posted : 5/15/2011 10:18:12 PM
Fascinating. I've always and continue to hope that I will have a hyper-real experience like that. Hopefully you'll have future opportunities to experiment further with such an experience.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
Phlux-
Chemical expertSenior Member
#3 Posted : 5/16/2011 5:25:45 AM
Seriously i am so sick of seeing this poor people in Africa thing
u wana know who needs some love and warm chowz - its iraq not africa
in africa the ppl that dont have - still keep smiling
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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Ljosalfar
#4 Posted : 5/16/2011 6:07:26 AM
Phlux, your post strikes me as off.
Kyrolima described a pharma journey in which he experienced empathy...
Reacting by being "so sick" of images of suffering in one part of the world vs. another doesn't come in to it.
L
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Phlux-
Chemical expertSenior Member
#5 Posted : 5/16/2011 7:18:50 AM
sorry - i was feeling a bit iffy this morning due to a bad long sleep.
i apologize for my post, best not to post when feeling not so kewl i guess.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
Ljosalfar
#6 Posted : 5/16/2011 8:34:59 AM
No problem - we all feel ugly sometimes and having a poor sleep can be wretched.
To OP, thanks for sharing what sounds like quite a vivid experience.
L
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool." Richard P. Feynman
 
Enoon
Moderator | Skills: Harm reduction, Analytical thinking
#7 Posted : 5/16/2011 9:08:58 AM
kyro, I wonder about the alien and the human thing -
may I offer an interpretation?

I think when we encounter principles that are beyond our own levels they can seem alien to us. Maybe what you were seeing was a union between what you now feel is human and what is super-human in the sense of Neitzsche - that which we have yet to develop and what is above us. The hybrid being could be a sort of bridge between these two levels of consciousness that you want to or are creating and cultivating within you, or that you see is being cultivated in the world around you.
The fact that this union was experienced as something beautiful and mutual understanding, and that from it was born by choice a new being to me seems very important in this respect. To attain higher reasoning and freedom from the diseases that afflict or human psyche one must choose to be free, one must choose to unite with the divine or whatever you want to call the ideas of what-you-could-be.

Maybe I'm totally off with this, but I like the idea nontheless and it your imagery made me think of this Smile

cheers & love
Enoon
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kyrolima
#8 Posted : 5/16/2011 7:40:26 PM
Enoon, you seem always to tend to interprete these visuals as some sort of interior process. I understand the concept and I fully understand that it would be the most reasonable.
But to me those visuals are so much more. My mind could invent better ways of telling me to integrate "alien" ideas.
Would be a crazy idea to do it this way, imo.

+ It left me no clue, what the alien represents.

So to me it is not an option to interprete the happened birth of the alien hybrid just as something psychological.
Maybe i should describe it a little moare:

The scene was located on a white ground. Not a bed, more like white ground. The woman was laying on her back. She wasn't too skinny red hair and appearantly healthy.
The alien had solid head, kind of thicker, just a little bit like
made of material which seemed like smooth plastic from a human perspective.
Thick head which resembled a little bit of the troopers in starwars.
Altough the shapes and the colours (black was a major component) were alien, skin was smooth and their bodies seem to be more solid and robust.

Alright, maybe I add more details, cu later everyone
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Shayku
#9 Posted : 5/16/2011 7:57:16 PM
What I'm getting out of this is that you're having visions that 'look' the way reality looks. Is that right? With pharma? I've yet to try pharma or aya, but my DMT trips look nothing like reality. I'm very interested in getting real-looking or dreamlike visions. Is this common with pharma?
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BananaForeskin
#10 Posted : 5/16/2011 8:08:12 PM
How did the alien seem? Simply another inhabitant of the universe? Some form of divinity? Hyperspatial?

It seems to reflect the merging (past, present or future) of humanity and whatever it was, I would think.
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kyrolima
#11 Posted : 5/16/2011 8:15:39 PM
If i didn't knew it better, i would say I WAS there! I never experienced such detailed visuals! Yes to me Pharma has some awesome qualities: It created a lot of trips with abstract ideas, higher truths, shapes and entities, and on this particular occasion it did teleport me into either real memories (not of this lifetime), the places itself, the future places or just some DARN real-looking dream.

To the alien:
It seemed taller than the woman. And there was some sort of plate above the womans body to prevent the alien from applying to much pressure, i guess.

It looked like a super high tech body, but not hightech electronic, high tech biomass!


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#12 Posted : 5/16/2011 8:17:09 PM
Kyrolima

Fascinating experience, compassion is key i have found... without it we are lost. Indeed the inequality that exist within our society is heartbreaking and completely unjustified. We are all apart of one another, someone else's suffering truly is our own. I find it extremely difficult at times to live in a world that is so harsh but where there is great suffering there is also the opportunity for great compassion. Thank you for sharing your experience, i wish you safe journeys my friend.


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Enoon
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#13 Posted : 5/16/2011 9:28:33 PM
kyrolima wrote:
Enoon, you seem always to tend to interprete these visuals as some sort of interior process. I understand the concept and I fully understand that it would be the most reasonable.
But to me those visuals are so much more.

Like what?
an alternate reality? something that is actually happening? a metaphor for something that is really happening? If you are connected to everything then interior processes can also be exterior processes to some degree... obviously some of your visions pertained to the world out there and you empathising with things beyond you. But this empathising too is an interior process evoked by exterior processes.
I'm not saying that your visions were what I interpreted them to be; I was just offering one possible way to see them. I find being creative with interpretations and angles to look at these experiences can be very beneficial. Just pretend it's a Rorschach pattern in 5-d...
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kyrolima
#14 Posted : 5/16/2011 9:51:43 PM
Maybe we are all just reflecting whatever we can understand and perceive.
Sometimes I experience myself as just another spirit on this earth, reflecting the world, nature, ideas and toughts of the collective human experience.


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Global
Moderator | Skills: Music, LSDMT, Egyptian Visions, DMT: Energetic/Holographic Phenomena, Integration, Trip Reports
#15 Posted : 5/17/2011 3:30:52 PM
Shayku wrote:
What I'm getting out of this is that you're having visions that 'look' the way reality looks. Is that right? With pharma? I've yet to try pharma or aya, but my DMT trips look nothing like reality. I'm very interested in getting real-looking or dreamlike visions. Is this common with pharma?



I have had numerous experiments with pharma, and though I can get some of the most impressive visuals DMT has to offer with pharma, I've yet to have any of those "real-looking" visions, and I haven't heard any evidence to suggest it. However, I will say this: being that pharma uses MAOIs by definition and these MAOIs are responsible for potentiating the experience, I suppose it could be more likely that one would have such a powerful, highly detailed and super-realistic experience on pharma as opposed to vaped spice. One of my biggest strategies for pushing the limits as far as I can take them is to vape DMT while on pharma. I think you'd probably be enhancing the chances of experiencing something with such results by doing so, but I also don't mean to make it sound like you should haphazardly vape spice on pharma. It often renders me completely immobile, and the state does persist for a bit, so start with low doses so you (kinda) know what you're getting yourself into.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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