Just out of curiosity. I'm also curious if you actually need to smoke harmalas for the effect or if vaping in the GVG is good enough. Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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I voted joint. I've tried it in a pipe and a water bong too. Joint is my favorite so far. I can't answer your vapor question yet. Sorry. Just got my GVG a couple of weeks ago and I've only put straight spice in it. I've read reports on here of people getting great effects using changa in a GVG. Welcome Home Mister_Niles. We've Been Waiting For You.
"Don't worry. When it happens, you won't be able to not let it do its thing. You won't have the ability to distinguish a pen from a hippopotamus"
- Art Van D'lay
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I voted joint as well... Its just something about smoking a nice changa joint with Calea and other herbs with others, thats just so smooth and refreshing. And afterwards you have someone to talk about your trip with.... Such a great feeling  01:13:08 ‹Ellis DEmpty› I met the people living in my head... I disturbed them while they were sitting down at the table.... They were as shocked as I was!
We were born too soon to explore the cosmos, and to late to explore the earth. Our frontier is the human mind; religion is the ocean we must cross.
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Pipe works just fine IMHO... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Joints seem like a giant waste of time. My changa is 1/1 mix.. Either small glass pipe, bubbler or bong. Long live the unwoke.
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My personal favourite way to enjoy Changa is to have Caapi tea before hand and then to smoke the Changa in a small glass pipe, pure perfection in simplicity... Much Peace and Happiness
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My personal favorite is to smoke it in a bubbler glass bong about 6 inches tall with some water in it.The size of the bowel on my implement is such that if its filled completely without overflowing, this is exactly the right amount which allows me to consume the whole amount in a single hit which is at the limit my lungs can take.Caapi x 11 : FB in a one to one ratio done this way is a breathrough every time. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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Caapi brew too. Love to smoke changa for hours  Usually with friends. Using GVG. 'Life is an illusion designed to keep your mind occupied while you are digested by God.'
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Sister likes to use a tubular metal vapourizer (other), its small, discreet, cannot break, fits in a pocket, doesn't let the smell get in the room. So if someone walks in unexpected their only clue would Sister's cluelessness, lol.
One drawback, it heats up pretty quickly, so needs tape wrapped around the mouthpiece to avoid burnt lips.
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Small dry bong.
Unless we're talking a long 20x session, in which case water is necassary for endurance, but that doesn't occur often.
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Ur making a 20x caapi? Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Dorge wrote:Ur making a 20x caapi? Have done a couple of times. By about the 4th cone the body load gets pretty intense, but it's pretty damn good if you can handle the goo. I may actually include some kind of defatting step next time... or use vine.
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adding vine will increase duration of effects I think while reducing some of the clarity the leaf can provide. I think the 20x as well as any larger dose does this effectively; it increases the levels of RIMAs in the brain allowing for for longer durations of effect Llowing for longer periods between successive redosing. That's my theory at least... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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you get so much more out of smoking your CHANGA through a Waterbong - Filled,, I have had through a joint before and i couldn't go as far and felt less effective, seemed like a little bit of a waste of CHANG, i couldn't imagine doing it any other way than through a bong with water. POSITIVE TRIPPING!!!
"Pay attention. And keep breathing." Terence McKenna
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pre-dose of oral caapi is definitely in order I voted all of the above. You can't go wrong with changa! Smoke it out of anything you want, it's always magic.
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Small glass water bong
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I rarely use changa, but when I do I use a mini-bong (with water). My GVG is used only for pure spice. gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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dreamer042 wrote:pre-dose of oral caapi is definitely in order I voted all of the above. You can't go wrong with changa! Smoke it out of anything you want, it's always magic. Well said! There didn't seem to be a wrong way of makin it or takin it... Just preference. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Small water filled glass bong for me. Ideally in complete darkness with complete silence.
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