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OneToInfinity
#1 Posted : 12/22/2010 8:14:45 AM
Metallic pinwheels in hyperspace

I am not a smoker. I've never taken hallucinogens. I've minimally smoked pot and tend to prefer alcohol. But some friends' experiences on DMT got me curious so I decided to take the plunge on what turned out to be the day of the lunar eclipse and the eve of the full moon and winter equinox (12/20/10). Coughing a bit, I took 3 hits of yellow crystals which quickly released me from reality. I immediately had no sense of the room around me and a vague sense of physical unease and not being able to breathe. I remember thinking "oh shit, oh no! This is it! No turning back! You're going in!" This part was physically traumatic because I was still coughing from the smoke; this was difficult and scary. I felt disengaged from my body. It was a violent beginning, like the Big Bang. The first visual I remember was a background field of gold that seemed exquisitely bright and illuminated. Layered in front were infinite geometric shapes with red dotted crosses dancing and twirling. There were 2 swirling firecracker-like, circular-star shapes that came in quickly from my peripheral: one from the left, one from the right and collided in the middle. But they were different from firecrackers because they had no chaos or randomness, they were just purity and symmetry. Everything was perfectly symmetric, infinitely deep, complex, pure and clean. Polished. Curved, silver metal. Like an Escher drawing that goes to infinity but in color and illuminated like nothing I've ever seen. Fast. Fast. Fast. Faster than fast. Light speed. I didn't expect it to be so fast! Not peaceful. Violent but exquisite. The word "beyond" seems to apply to any description I could come up with.

The overarching theme was that everything was happening at warp speed and this was very disarming and somewhat scary and difficult to process. Hyperreal. It was like someone turned the dial on my brain from a 1 to 1,000. No, make that 10,000. I was physically thrashing around a bit. Everything was hyperreal. Beyond the reality of all life experienced before this. It felt like every neuron in my brain was firing at once. Complete brain overload. I remember thinking "this is too much for my brain! Help!" I don't think I could take more than 5 minutes of it.

There was a sense of no time. There were senses here and there of wanting to go to sleep but immediately being pulled in again. There was a feeling of high voltage: that my brain had been zapped by some crackling, metallic electricity and left to sit in this high-voltage state for 5 minutes. It felt like my brain had been seized and squeezed.

I don't remember what happened during the middle. I was more at ease during the last third (?). I kept reaching for water, I was so parched from the smoke but I couldn't quite focus on my water glass to pick it up. My friend sitting next to me looked like a short dwarf. His presence was very grounding and I was thankful for it, always there for what seemed like a long time, constantly changing (short, close, far away). As I came off it, the floor looked like it had clear beads of liquid running horizontally across it. The cat looked like a sausage. I enjoyed the distorted reality of the room around me as I came off it, as things started to slow down. I felt resistant to the first part, it was so utterly mind-blowing and violent and fast that I was relieved to know it was ending. It felt like rebirth. I cannot describe the intricacy and color I saw. I kept pulling my hair back and tugging on it, putting my hands on my face, flailing a bit. It took me about 20 minutes to stop shaking afterward.

This was the most extreme thing I've ever seen in my mind. The experience was nothing like I was expecting. Nothing can prepare you for this. No videos or descriptions or previous experiences. I feel like my brain was re-booted. I had no idea I could see the things I did. I will never forget that first firecracker explosion of gold and red and perfect geometry. Everything was so pure and clean. Not a spec of toxin or adulteration or randomness. I did feel later, after thinking about it, the vague sense of being shown something by something outside of me. And that something was slightly laughing as if to say "here you go! you asked for it! We're gonna show you EVERYTHING at ONCE."
But I am so happy to have seen that. Maybe this is what reality looks like when there is no time dimension: everything happens at once, on top of each other. Regular life now seems really slow.

I am really thankful and happy for this experience and have a new amazement and respect for what our brains can experience. The lasting image is the first one: the gold and red and symmetric, metallic geometry in hyper-speed motion. I do feel I took a trip from which there is no return. Everyone should experience this once.

The next day

I couldn't sleep because my brain was still reeling from the experience. The next day I was consumed with thoughts and epiphanies. Consciousness might be god (further reason to respect it). Physicality is irrelevant.

But why are our brains normally vibrating at such a lower frequency? The DMT was high-frequency and divine. How is it that we get caught up in these self-hating thoughts, suicide, war, etc. ?
The mundane world around me seems to be of a lower vibration: cats, food, everything made of matter. I had seen what perfection looked like. Perfect symmetry. Maybe there is just consciousness? My brain has been zapped. Opened up and reset. The high-pitched sound like when a needle slides across a record.

Everything I saw was in extreme high definition.
Reality might be an intricate machine that is made of pure geometry and mathematics?
Why does it make you so happy? Happy to be let in on a secret? Happy to have seen new things you never before thought possible? Happy to have been let free of a dreary reality?

What I saw in that 5 minutes was much closer to a visualization of all the things I read about in string theory and physics but failed to imagine. When I try to visualize now what Brian Greene describes in "The Fabric of the Cosmos," for example, it doesn't come close to what I visualized on the DMT.

What I saw is maybe what the technology will look like one million years in the future?
Intricate, infinite patterns. Nothing from our world can be found there.

The next day I couldn't listen and watch my usual barrage of daily news because I felt it would taint and pollute my pure state. I didn't want to infiltrate my sense of well-being with its toxins.
I had a sense memory of the smell of the smoke throughout the day. The burning oil of frying onions for lunch brought it back too.

Now when I think back, I feel there was a tune that went with the beginning geometric visuals like a funhouse circus clashing sound. And interlocking patterns. Like those 3d toys that click together and transform into different shapes.

I feel I've been initiated.
 
Choothos
#2 Posted : 12/22/2010 9:09:46 AM
Sounds like you had a great first experience. Kudos to you. The part about the spinning geometric firecrackers reminds me of my first time. I remember seeing something veeeeery similar in the glass before I could even manage to put it down, and then I forgot how to put it down, as if it were a part of me all along.

Great report, and hope you have many a blessed journey in the future.
 
endlessness
Moderator
#3 Posted : 12/22/2010 10:12:24 AM
OneToInfinity wrote:
Metallic pinwheels in hyperspace

I am not a smoker. I've never taken hallucinogens. I've minimally smoked pot and tend to prefer alcohol. But some friends' experiences on DMT got me curious so I decided to take the plunge on what turned out to be the day of the lunar eclipse and the eve of the full moon and winter equinox (12/20/10). Coughing a bit, I took 3 hits of yellow crystals which quickly released me from reality. I immediately had no sense of the room around me and a vague sense of physical unease and not being able to breathe. I remember thinking "oh shit, oh no! This is it! No turning back! You're going in!" This part was physically traumatic because I was still coughing from the smoke; this was difficult and scary. I felt disengaged from my body. It was a violent beginning, like the Big Bang. The first visual I remember was a background field of gold that seemed exquisitely bright and illuminated. Layered in front were infinite geometric shapes with red dotted crosses dancing and twirling. There were 2 swirling firecracker-like, circular-star shapes that came in quickly from my peripheral: one from the left, one from the right and collided in the middle. But they were different from firecrackers because they had no chaos or randomness, they were just purity and symmetry. Everything was perfectly symmetric, infinitely deep, complex, pure and clean. Polished. Curved, silver metal. Like an Escher drawing that goes to infinity but in color and illuminated like nothing I've ever seen. Fast. Fast. Fast. Faster than fast. Light speed. I didn't expect it to be so fast! Not peaceful. Violent but exquisite. The word "beyond" seems to apply to any description I could come up with.

The overarching theme was that everything was happening at warp speed and this was very disarming and somewhat scary and difficult to process. Hyperreal. It was like someone turned the dial on my brain from a 1 to 1,000. No, make that 10,000. I was physically thrashing around a bit. Everything was hyperreal. Beyond the reality of all life experienced before this. It felt like every neuron in my brain was firing at once. Complete brain overload. I remember thinking "this is too much for my brain! Help!" I don't think I could take more than 5 minutes of it.

There was a sense of no time. There were senses here and there of wanting to go to sleep but immediately being pulled in again. There was a feeling of high voltage: that my brain had been zapped by some crackling, metallic electricity and left to sit in this high-voltage state for 5 minutes. It felt like my brain had been seized and squeezed.

I don't remember what happened during the middle. I was more at ease during the last third (?). I kept reaching for water, I was so parched from the smoke but I couldn't quite focus on my water glass to pick it up. My friend sitting next to me looked like a short dwarf. His presence was very grounding and I was thankful for it, always there for what seemed like a long time, constantly changing (short, close, far away). As I came off it, the floor looked like it had clear beads of liquid running horizontally across it. The cat looked like a sausage. I enjoyed the distorted reality of the room around me as I came off it, as things started to slow down. I felt resistant to the first part, it was so utterly mind-blowing and violent and fast that I was relieved to know it was ending. It felt like rebirth. I cannot describe the intricacy and color I saw. I kept pulling my hair back and tugging on it, putting my hands on my face, flailing a bit. It took me about 20 minutes to stop shaking afterward.

This was the most extreme thing I've ever seen in my mind. The experience was nothing like I was expecting. Nothing can prepare you for this. No videos or descriptions or previous experiences. I feel like my brain was re-booted. I had no idea I could see the things I did. I will never forget that first firecracker explosion of gold and red and perfect geometry. Everything was so pure and clean. Not a spec of toxin or adulteration or randomness. I did feel later, after thinking about it, the vague sense of being shown something by something outside of me. And that something was slightly laughing as if to say "here you go! you asked for it! We're gonna show you EVERYTHING at ONCE."
But I am so happy to have seen that. Maybe this is what reality looks like when there is no time dimension: everything happens at once, on top of each other. Regular life now seems really slow.

I am really thankful and happy for this experience and have a new amazement and respect for what our brains can experience. The lasting image is the first one: the gold and red and symmetric, metallic geometry in hyper-speed motion. I do feel I took a trip from which there is no return. Everyone should experience this once.

The next day

I couldn't sleep because my brain was still reeling from the experience. The next day I was consumed with thoughts and epiphanies. Consciousness might be god (further reason to respect it). Physicality is irrelevant.

But why are our brains normally vibrating at such a lower frequency? The DMT was high-frequency and divine. How is it that we get caught up in these self-hating thoughts, suicide, war, etc. ?
The mundane world around me seems to be of a lower vibration: cats, food, everything made of matter. I had seen what perfection looked like. Perfect symmetry. Maybe there is just consciousness? My brain has been zapped. Opened up and reset. The high-pitched sound like when a needle slides across a record.

Everything I saw was in extreme high definition.
Reality might be an intricate machine that is made of pure geometry and mathematics?
Why does it make you so happy? Happy to be let in on a secret? Happy to have seen new things you never before thought possible? Happy to have been let free of a dreary reality?

What I saw in that 5 minutes was much closer to a visualization of all the things I read about in string theory and physics but failed to imagine. When I try to visualize now what Brian Greene describes in "The Fabric of the Cosmos," for example, it doesn't come close to what I visualized on the DMT.

What I saw is maybe what the technology will look like one million years in the future?
Intricate, infinite patterns. Nothing from our world can be found there.

The next day I couldn't listen and watch my usual barrage of daily news because I felt it would taint and pollute my pure state. I didn't want to infiltrate my sense of well-being with its toxins.
I had a sense memory of the smell of the smoke throughout the day. The burning oil of frying onions for lunch brought it back too.

Now when I think back, I feel there was a tune that went with the beginning geometric visuals like a funhouse circus clashing sound. And interlocking patterns. Like those 3d toys that click together and transform into different shapes.

I feel I've been initiated.


That sounds like dmt alright Very happy Now you can call yourself a man (just kidding Razz)

No but really, congrats on your first experience! Its incredible heh? And the amazing thing is that the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper (and weirder and weirder), there seems to be no bottom or end to this experience.

The only thing that worries me a bit is your integration to it. I understand the feeling that some things of our reality seem so mundane ("news" for example), but its important to be careful not inverting your priorities in a way that your daily reality becomes less important. It should be the inverse, while DMT hyperspace does feel hyperreal, this should only serve for you to come back and be more amazed at existence, to give more value in being alive and to try to make the best out of the life you have been given.

Do check the Health And Safety section, specifically the integration section as it has some good tips and suggestions.

Good luck! Hope to see more from you around. And while this is not an 'introduction essay', still: Welcome to the Nexus Smile
 
SpiralNeuroEclipse
#4 Posted : 12/22/2010 7:33:42 PM
welcome to the nexus my freind Smile
 
corpus callosum
Medical DoctorModerator
#5 Posted : 12/22/2010 8:15:08 PM
Nice report!Smile

That strikes chords wit me too;your descriptions of the word-defying geometry were great.

As Endlessness intimated the experience is like a blessing to you but remember the integration side is so important.The blandness,dispiriting disquietude and abuses that take place in normal life are after all the launch-pad to the experience youve had.Sadly , the grimness of what goes on is necessary to allow us the chance to seek the higher-things.Both should be given their due measure.

And welcome aboard!Very happy
I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.

 
Bancopuma
Senior Member
#6 Posted : 12/22/2010 11:13:09 PM
Great report. Welcome to the Nexus! Wink
 
Felnik
#7 Posted : 12/22/2010 11:33:31 PM
Well done. its a beautiful and amazing thing this stuff
Does . Integration and grounding is the key to going
Deeper and deeper. At the very least this stuff certainly offers
Perspective
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


http://vimeo.com/32001208
 
OneToInfinity
#8 Posted : 12/23/2010 12:28:23 AM
Aah, thanks for all the nice responses and thanks for directing me to the integration info - very helpful. I'm happy to report I'im feeling much more integrated into the world today (though still don't feel like turning on the news ;o). Listening to ethereal, ambient music is nice. I've still been thinking about the experience throughout the day, but the intensity of the visuals that were branded into my mind are fading a bit. I feel integrated back into the world and joyous at having briefly left and so thankful I did it. And proud of myself for doing something I was very scared to try. As the biggest atheist/skeptic/science-based person around, I feel my beliefs have been shaken a bit. And Endlessness, now I can indeed call myself a man (err, woman). ;o)

A nice way to entertain the post-DMT mind is re-reading some Brian Greene and fitting the DMT experience into current ideas in theoretical physics like wave fields and particle spin. Funny, I just read a passage from the book on how string theory predicts 9 spatial dimensions. He writes "Although it's impossible to draw, imagine a universe with 6 extra dimensions. I certainly can't visualize this and I've never met anyone who can." I guess he hasn't met anyone who did DMT ;o)
 
antrocles
Senior Member
#9 Posted : 12/28/2010 9:27:50 PM
righteous. i'll be seeing you very soon for your second expedition... from what i gathered in our brief conversation, you are well and truly on the path.

..you know....the path that has little DMT lamps strung along it into infinity.. Pleased

L&G!!
"Rise above the illusion of time and you will have tomorrow's
wisdom today."
 
Pandora
Welcoming committeeSenior Member
#10 Posted : 12/28/2010 10:02:40 PM
Wow! AWESOME trip report! Best one I've read in a long time. I LOVE the Nursery!!!

Welcome, welcome, welcome. You feel initiated. Sometimes it is nice to know people who have too . . . . this is a good place. There is community and data and a wealth of experience here.

You are very good at putting it into language. This is not easy to do. Hang on to this skill. Keep writing it down.

Thank you so much for sharing.

You are going to be fine. Anything that feels weird just needs a little time. Frankly, I would say enjoy this time, note the things that stand out now. Examine them closely. For example, you didn't desire the polluted feeling of your daily barrage of news after the experience . . . . Why is this?

As far as I can determine, most of us spend most of our lives "asleep." If this assumption is at all true and has any application to you, . . . sounds like you just got a wake up call.

Welcome to the Nexus!
"But even if nothing lasts and everything is lost, there is still the intrinsic value of the moment. The present moment, ultimately, is more than enough, a gift of grace and unfathomable value, which our friend and lover death paints in stark relief."
-Rick Doblin, Ph.D. MAPS President, MAPS Bulletin Vol. XX, No. 1, pg. 2


Hyperspace LOVES YOU
 
Entheojen
#11 Posted : 12/29/2010 12:20:48 AM
Smile
The trees spoke to me through the wind. The more I listened, the more they spoke.
 
OneToInfinity
#12 Posted : 12/31/2010 5:55:47 AM
The lamp posts strung along is a great analogy! That's it!

I feel I just scratched the surface but already the experience is fading, like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of the original. But I still think about it every day, perpetually, here 10 days later. If DMT is created in the pineal gland, then it's like we're smoking our own brains, turning the reality inside out, the brain reflecting itself in an infinite series like when mirrors reflect themselves ad infinitum. It's like I discovered that we only use .0001% of our brains in normal life. As the experience goes further into the past, I begin to feel comfortable again with just that .0001% but I know with another experience, I can be "adjusted" to wake up the other 99.999%. It gives me hope for the future.
 
tadgh78
#13 Posted : 1/18/2011 1:01:35 AM
OneToInfinity wrote:
As the biggest atheist/skeptic/science-based person around, I feel my beliefs have been shaken a bit.


Aye. As an Agnostic myself, I found I came away from the experience with a greatly increased respect for the mystical and spiritual mindset. In fact It was very nearly enough to give me religion! Pleased

OneToInfinity wrote:

A nice way to entertain the post-DMT mind is re-reading some Brian Greene and fitting the DMT experience into current ideas in theoretical physics like wave fields and particle spin.


Something which is often reported as being part of the DMT experience is being brought face to face with the concept of "Infinity".

Here's a pretty good Documentary about infinity that put me in mind of the strangeness of the DMT experience;

http://www.youtube.com/w...A254&feature=related




 
DMTripper
#14 Posted : 1/18/2011 1:28:48 AM
Thank you for a good report.

If you go there again it might be a completely different experience. And even a peaceful one. Things might be happening at hyperspeed around you but you might be at peace. When things get too intense try just to observe, don't get caught in what you see. Meditation is a good practice for this. Stay out of your mind.

Well good luck. Hope to read more reports from you Smile
––––––

DMTripper is a fictional character therefore everything he says here must be fiction.
I mean, who really believes there is such a place as Hyperspace!!

 
joedirt
Senior Member
#15 Posted : 1/18/2011 2:18:56 AM
Quote:
I will never forget that first firecracker explosion of gold and red and perfect geometry. Everything was so pure and clean. Not a spec of toxin or adulteration or randomness.


This is the most perfect description of the initial DMT headspace I've ever read. Holly crap. Perfect.

Smile Smile
If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
 
Cherokee_Spirit
#16 Posted : 1/18/2011 2:34:13 AM
Awesome trip report man!
Well I don't want no preacher telling me about the god in the sky
No I don't want no one to tell me where I'm gonna go when I die
I wanna live my life, I don't want people telling me what to do
I just believe in myself, 'cause no one else is true
 
OneToInfinity
#17 Posted : 1/18/2011 4:18:18 AM
tadgh78:

Thanks for the link to the infinity video! I also love "The Infinite Book" by John D. Barrow (2005).
Before the DMT, my firm belief was that consciousness was just a default from being a physical human being.
After the DMT, that got turned around. The human physical body is just a temporary place to hold the consciousness which is timeless and infinite. Consciousness = primary. Physical body = secondary. Funny how 5 minutes can reverse your belief on something so serious.

I used to dismiss spiritual and mystical things as "woo-woo" but like you, now have an increased respect for reports of "visions" and "spirits." A lot of this didn't necessarily come from my own DMT experience, but from talking with close friends who did DMT and hearing about their encounters with entities, gods, etc. Even having done DMT only once, I believe them, whereas before I would have been dismissive.

Astral Planer:
I am trying to get up the nerve to go again. It was scary but I keep telling myself only good can come of it. Hearing that the second time could be totally different helps. I'm trying to understand what "stay out of your mind" means. I will try meditating more before going again. I feel that I SHOULD go again. DMT is a soul car-wash. After you drive your car around awhile, it gets dirty again. Now, a month later, I'm ready for another car-wash.

joedirt:
Thanks for the nice comment. I really enjoyed writing about the DMT experience, I guess because I like writing in general and it was a prime subject requiring a feast of adjectives.
When I go again, I will definitely post a report.


I recently stumbled upon the Biography Channel's "I Survived: Beyond and Back." (Not to be confused with "I Survived" which doesn't address actual death). It's a TV show about people whose heart stopped for several minutes from various accidents, heart attacks, etc. They relate their experiences of dying (or near-death) and leaving their bodies. So much of what they said resounded with my DMT experience and the DMT experiences of my friends and people on this forum. I recommend watching that. The pineal gland sure is a mysterious thing.
 
xebiche
#18 Posted : 1/18/2011 12:18:00 PM
"Nothing from our world can be found there". Dmt shows us ourselves and our Universe. We forget that our World is part of the Universe. Earth is as beautiful and magical as any of the Worlds that I have seen.

Thank You for your Essay. I loved how you just threw down.
Honor The Game And It Will Honor You Back
 
ragabr
#19 Posted : 1/18/2011 2:38:31 PM
This was a really great read, thank you for sharing it.
PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
 
 
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