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shoe
New member
#1 Posted : 3/9/2009 7:49:34 AM
you know the guys..



Dosage was ~40mg of some fresh spice SWIM cooked up. (its obviously quite a bit better than the other stuff hehe)
Its also the first time i've really been able to navigate or move in DMT space at all.

the trip started with an amazing, timeless feeling spinning holagram of two (beautiful) interlocking humans, making love. looking back, I realise I was controling its rotation. It was a male and a female embraced, with glistening fractal skin, with a trillion shiny particle scales, the curves were so beautiful. sexy. loving. I felt somekind of entity presence, or just noticed little shadowy figures of eyes in the background who seemed to be watching the spinning hologram too.

my first reaction was "hey!" beacause I thought I was alone in there, with just somekind of typical dmt-vision.
but anyway we kind of agreed whether or not it was okay for them to be watching the hollogram, (I thought: dirty pervs!)
and I raised my vibrational state and projected love; initially assuming them to have negative intentions. about 3 or 4 if im right. hard to say.

at the time, (lol, time. it seemed to last forrrrrrrevvvver) I knew they were entities present but I didn't know what type of entities.

then I noticed that the spinning lovemaking figures seemed to be projected by a green energy beam coming from some kind of little projector, so I followed it to its source, and thats when I met them!

The real deal. I am the biggest skeptic out there, and I actually cannot beleive myself writing this down. The space I was in was morphic, changing shape, like fluid. Alsorts of yellows and reds, flowing and morphing round. They appeared from alsorts of different angles. no wonder various depictions of them are all different... They don't stay still really!

first smiling, then a little more serious. I had so many questions for them, they kind of answered a few. and I asked them if they'd help look after my loved ones (kate & george). Not sure what they said, I think it was a given that they would.

Incredible, Im actually still reeling. I came back when I *chose* to come back. (which felt like, in real time, about a good solid 15 - 20 minuites worth of experience. prolly the first 5 - 10 mins was just examining the hologram, this felt timeless enough, then the entity contact and subsequent 'operation'. At one point they were so tall and so far above me in this fluidic space, i knew how it felt to be on the operating table. i felt slightly dry in the mouth, sweaty and uncomfortable - asif I was being bothered by the sun. Meanwhile, back in the real world, I think I actually was being bothered by the sun Pleased

If I were you and I was reading this, I would be like "yeah, sure. stereotypical aliens. whatever." but im not so I don't have to worry about whether or not this is real, do I? LOL!

my first words when back were "that was *mad*!"

hope you enjoyed the reading, and that you find them yourselves.

(or maybe they find you... did they set that projector up to attract hyperspacial humans, like a moth to the flame perhaps? I don't know.)
shoe

ॐ भूर्भुव: स्व: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं । भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि, धीयो यो न: प्रचोदयात्
Love, Gratittude, Compassion, Fearlessness!
 
shoe
New member
#2 Posted : 3/9/2009 8:32:45 AM
btw I just wanted to add how overwhealmingly impressed I am with this experience.

If this makes me a sad looser / somone that you'd doubt / UFO nutcase - whatever,
then so be it; because there is no possible way in my mind that I can doubt that was
real.

The space I was in had all of the characteristics of our everyday, waking reality:
with one difference: I was fully consious that I had a body, the entire time.

Appart from the fact that the space was fluid, thick, and red and yellow, it was as
real as you feel sitting at your p.c right now; but with different properties.
shoe

ॐ भूर्भुव: स्व: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं । भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि, धीयो यो न: प्रचोदयात्
Love, Gratittude, Compassion, Fearlessness!
 
Saidin
Senior Member | Skills: Aquaponics, Channeling, Spirituality, Past Life Regression Hypnosis
#3 Posted : 3/9/2009 1:44:47 PM
Nice trip report and a powerful experience.

Be careful though, Red/Orange/Yellow hues in and around aliens tend to be given off by the negative type (operating table, make you feel small and them greater than you, dry mouth, sweaty, uncomfortable). Blue/Green/Indigo are more often associated with positive ones.

Just remember, you can always send out love, and they will be unable to harm you.
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
shoe
New member
#4 Posted : 3/9/2009 2:00:50 PM
Hmn... I didn't know that. Could you link me to some relevant material?
shoe

ॐ भूर्भुव: स्व: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं । भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि, धीयो यो न: प्रचोदयात्
Love, Gratittude, Compassion, Fearlessness!
 
Saidin
Senior Member | Skills: Aquaponics, Channeling, Spirituality, Past Life Regression Hypnosis
#5 Posted : 3/9/2009 4:04:46 PM
Look into the various Chakras. Red/Orange/Yellow are the lower ones, dealing with connection to this reality, duality, sexual experience, feeling. More centered on the self and its individual experiences. Aliens of this hue tend to be more service to self orientated.

Green/Blue/Indigo are the higher Chakras, heart, throat, mind. These chakras deal more with understanding the other as self. Aliens of these hues tend to be more of the service to others orientated.

The expeience in itself can tell you their orientation. Was it a loving environment, or a fearful one? You described a more fearfull atmosphere which would indicate they were trying to impress you with their greatness and leave you humbled or feeling not as worthy. Those are the actions of a being trying to serve itself rather than you.

Here is a little video about Kundalini Awakening, and explaining the functions of the various Chakras.

http://video.google.com/...cid=-8101989694941061600
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
El Ka Bong
#6 Posted : 3/9/2009 6:15:59 PM
.. Thank You! Say it again if you can muster more words for it ! We are all Star Children ! An alien inheritance lies within every living organism - physically present as DNA etc etc etc ... BUT never mind the physical atoms of you, which certainly is beautifully incarnated, egotistical and dualistically aware - go out and find your Star Children !

I just had another one of those 'alien' experiences the other day. In this unexpected launch, a left-over-hit (52 mg smoked by my friend first) took me right there! I seemed also to know how to 'handle myself'. I was able to return there if I opened my eyes for a second - as though it was a 'check' to see if it really was 'happening'. I was aware of 'so many guardians' present at the boundary between 'pure hyperspace' - in their space ship - and the fractal landscapes we find when returning to a physical reality ! I felt so able to call upon 'guardians' any time ... they are the ones that are easy to 'communicate' with - they love us so much !

The aliens that are uninterested in us seem to be more 'out-there' in Hyperspace than the guardians are - in a digital landscape. To them (many shapes, not just as in the photo above) we must appear like a funny rock on their busy roads - dmt makes us fall like a rock onto a hyperspace highway, and some 'motorist' in Hyperspace will eventually come over and pick you up or treat you like no-more-than-a-rock out of place. Maybe you get to ride in their spaceship for awhile, as they drive you to the "weird-rock drop off" zone, like a toll-booth for wayward dmt smokers and other litter in hyperspace, but they are rather 'cold' about meeting you, on their digital, Hyperspace highways.

Guardians are different - they 'feel' you and we are precious to them - we are more-than-a-rock to them, an unborn jewel they must tend to - we are their responsibility somehow. They appear in the more 'fractalized landscapes'... or when it's 'time to reincarnate' ... become undigital again...

The 'discovery' of this other part of us feels like a huge, Cosmic Secret has been let out ! How can so few of us know or just remember this ..!> WHY did we forget ..!? Or as it has been shown to me, I have been assured that I am evolved to a point where I am given it's knowledge ... "Evolved" as a word to not sound egotistical ... We are all evolved to this point, teetering on the edge of this wonderful secret ! Jump everybody .. Jump with faith ! we each have a diving board from which to jump all the way into your soul, built right in our hearts and minds ! The Star Children are right there !

Skepticism is like a 'sport' .. there are rules to keep skeptics in their boxes - I used to be one. But with dmt, they too wouldn't stand a chance.



 
antrocles
Senior Member
#7 Posted : 3/9/2009 6:28:01 PM
no skepticism on this end....SWIM's met them himself and is a straight-up believer! congrats shoe! i am so incredibly happy for you my brother!

love and gratitude!
"Rise above the illusion of time and you will have tomorrow's
wisdom today."
 
tryptographer
#8 Posted : 3/9/2009 8:59:18 PM
shoe wrote:
If I were you and I was reading this, I would be like "yeah, sure. stereotypical aliens. whatever." but im not so I don't have to worry about whether or not this is real, do I? LOL!


Sounds like a wonderful experience, congrats! Always nice to see shoes making steps forward Smile

It's always so difficult to explain the undeniable reality of it.
It's subjective but it comes across as a completely coherent reality. How can this be a result from disturbed brain activity or misfiring neurons?? Mindboggling...

Man I should launch more often, just to remind me how close to miraculous it can be..
 
40oztofreedom
#9 Posted : 3/9/2009 9:46:45 PM
Saidin wrote:
Look into the various Chakras. Red/Orange/Yellow are the lower ones, dealing with connection to this reality, duality, sexual experience, feeling. More centered on the self and its individual experiences. Aliens of this hue tend to be more service to self orientated.

Green/Blue/Indigo are the higher Chakras, heart, throat, mind. These chakras deal more with understanding the other as self. Aliens of these hues tend to be more of the service to others orientated.

The expeience in itself can tell you their orientation. Was it a loving environment, or a fearful one? You described a more fearfull atmosphere which would indicate they were trying to impress you with their greatness and leave you humbled or feeling not as worthy. Those are the actions of a being trying to serve itself rather than you.

Here is a little video about Kundalini Awakening, and explaining the functions of the various Chakras.

http://video.google.com/...cid=-8101989694941061600


Actually, studies also show (I don't have any links, just stuff I remember from a long time ago) showed that the hotter colors (red, orange, yellow) are proven to make people more uncomfortable then cooler colors (green, blue, purple). Maybe that also has something to do with the vibes given back by an entity with the hotter colors.
So glad to see you have overcome them.
Completely silent now
With heaven's help
You cast your demons out

--------------------
I lie compulsively, and I am subjected to mental disorders as to where I have trouble even considering my own existance.
 
Faust
#10 Posted : 3/9/2009 10:10:40 PM
Saidin wrote:
Look into the various Chakras. Red/Orange/Yellow are the lower ones, dealing with connection to this reality, duality, sexual experience, feeling. More centered on the self and its individual experiences. Aliens of this hue tend to be more service to self orientated.

Green/Blue/Indigo are the higher Chakras, heart, throat, mind. These chakras deal more with understanding the other as self. Aliens of these hues tend to be more of the service to others orientated.

The expeience in itself can tell you their orientation. Was it a loving environment, or a fearful one? You described a more fearfull atmosphere which would indicate they were trying to impress you with their greatness and leave you humbled or feeling not as worthy. Those are the actions of a being trying to serve itself rather than you.

Here is a little video about Kundalini Awakening, and explaining the functions of the various Chakras.

http://video.google.com/...cid=-8101989694941061600


Great video, but I am still skeptical of OP's post. Where he says "I'm not" towards the end of the post, what does that mean?
"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" - Sir Isaac Newton

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.


 
Psychodelirium
#11 Posted : 3/9/2009 10:46:37 PM
Saidin wrote:
Look into the various Chakras. Red/Orange/Yellow are the lower ones, dealing with connection to this reality, duality, sexual experience, feeling. More centered on the self and its individual experiences. Aliens of this hue tend to be more service to self orientated.

Green/Blue/Indigo are the higher Chakras, heart, throat, mind. These chakras deal more with understanding the other as self. Aliens of these hues tend to be more of the service to others orientated.

The expeience in itself can tell you their orientation. Was it a loving environment, or a fearful one? You described a more fearfull atmosphere which would indicate they were trying to impress you with their greatness and leave you humbled or feeling not as worthy. Those are the actions of a being trying to serve itself rather than you.

Here is a little video about Kundalini Awakening, and explaining the functions of the various Chakras.

http://video.google.com/...cid=-8101989694941061600


Don't know much about chakras, but this actually resonates pretty well with SWIM's own experiences. The colors that dominate a certain stage of the DMT experience always seem to be polarized along the warm and the cool colors. For instance, in SWIM's first foray into DMT space, the dominant colors were dark blue, green, and black, and the experience was pretty lucid and analytical without much of an emotional load at all. In later trips, the background hues of the space were bright red, orange and yellow, and the physical/emotional load dominated the experience.

However, SWIM is wary of understanding this color polarity in a good/bad, positive/negative way. Rather, the background hues seem to be accessing cues that reveal what kind of information is becoming available and how you are supposed to process it. I.e. the bright/warm hues are indicative of a space were you process information on a more visceral emotional level, whereas the dark/cool hues indicate a space where you access more abstract information and are expected to think.

SWIM suspects the archetypal polarity that these hues express has more to do with day/night, sun/moon, and how things look when illuminated by sunlight as opposed to moonlight. In fact, a friend of SWIM's, recounting his very first DMT experience, described seeing the light source that supplied the bright/warm hues, and that light source was the sun, which filled the entire space, and which he saw vividly and in pretty realistic astrophysical detail. That experience was also accompanied by feelings of warmth and positive energy.

SWIM himself has had an experience where the background hues were cool and dark, and yet the vibe of the experience was sinister and spooky. In short, SWIM feels that the background hues have more to do with the form than the content of the experience.
 
Saidin
Senior Member | Skills: Aquaponics, Channeling, Spirituality, Past Life Regression Hypnosis
#12 Posted : 3/10/2009 12:26:05 AM
40oztofreedom wrote:

Actually, studies also show (I don't have any links, just stuff I remember from a long time ago) showed that the hotter colors (red, orange, yellow) are proven to make people more uncomfortable then cooler colors (green, blue, purple). Maybe that also has something to do with the vibes given back by an entity with the hotter colors.


I've read this elsewhere too, it could also be part of what is going on.

Psychodelirium wrote:

Don't know much about chakras, but this actually resonates pretty well with SWIM's own experiences. The colors that dominate a certain stage of the DMT experience always seem to be polarized along the warm and the cool colors. For instance, in SWIM's first foray into DMT space, the dominant colors were dark blue, green, and black, and the experience was pretty lucid and analytical without much of an emotional load at all. In later trips, the background hues of the space were bright red, orange and yellow, and the physical/emotional load dominated the experience.

However, SWIM is wary of understanding this color polarity in a good/bad, positive/negative way. Rather, the background hues seem to be accessing cues that reveal what kind of information is becoming available and how you are supposed to process it. I.e. the bright/warm hues are indicative of a space were you process information on a more visceral emotional level, whereas the dark/cool hues indicate a space where you access more abstract information and are expected to think.

SWIM suspects the archetypal polarity that these hues express has more to do with day/night, sun/moon, and how things look when illuminated by sunlight as opposed to moonlight. In fact, a friend of SWIM's, recounting his very first DMT experience, described seeing the light source that supplied the bright/warm hues, and that light source was the sun, which filled the entire space, and which he saw vividly and in pretty realistic astrophysical detail. That experience was also accompanied by feelings of warmth and positive energy.

SWIM himself has had an experience where the background hues were cool and dark, and yet the vibe of the experience was sinister and spooky. In short, SWIM feels that the background hues have more to do with the form than the content of the experience.


An interesting take on your experiences. That could be a function of what is going on as well. Isn't the Universe an amazing place? Look at all this complexity, and we're just barely scratching the surface!
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
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#13 Posted : 3/10/2009 3:07:54 AM
Faust wrote:

Great video, but I am still skeptical of OP's post. Where he says "I'm not" towards the end of the post, what does that mean?


I think the OP was just saying that he's not someone else. He's himself. And therefore he doesn't have to be skeptical as to whether or not this really happened.

Hell, I'll take him at his word though. Sounds like he had some fun. Very happy
 
islandhome
#14 Posted : 3/10/2009 4:45:39 AM
with you
had a blue snake scaled gray walk right through my door when i was doing aya
right at the very first of my trip
i was still walking around my house waiting for it to kick in when it happend
You'd better be prepared for the jump into hyperspace. It's unpleasantly like being drunk."

"What's so unpleasant about being drunk?"

"You ask a glass of water."

Douglas Adams

 
shoe
New member
#15 Posted : 3/11/2009 9:00:10 PM
effinhostilis wrote:
Faust wrote:

Great video, but I am still skeptical of OP's post. Where he says "I'm not" towards the end of the post, what does that mean?


I think the OP was just saying that he's not someone else. He's himself. And therefore he doesn't have to be skeptical as to whether or not this really happened.

Hell, I'll take him at his word though. Sounds like he had some fun. Very happy



Thats right! This experience was overwhealmingly cool. (I've always wanted to meet aliens.)

As to the question of whether or not they were 'negative' or 'hostile'; well, certainly not hostile
and also, not really negative either. Just neutral. Kinda cool and un-emotional. Of course, I was
filled with epic joy to be meeting them for the first time, and my first few moments there were
just filled with odd lip-pursing as I tried to think what I could *possibly* ask them.

Think about it, you've just encountered an alien race possibly far more evolved than human beings
in a hyperdimensional fluidic space.

what do you ask?

emm.... "what's your grandpa's name?" I actually just felt like anything I asked would be like ralph
from the simpsons. "My cats breath smells like cat food." and they would reply like skinner:
"hmmm, yes."

As for the red/yellow/orange hues and the uncomfortable dry mouth feeling... well, at this point it was
early in the morning and the sun was streaming through my window and onto my face. I think this
explains the colours more than linking it to any specific chakra. It was merely the colour of the back of
my eyelids Pleased

But, I am not completely closed to the possibility since I have myself, seen all the colours of the chakras
displayed in a whirling vortex which emminated from my root chakra and then dissapeared into my crown.

Which was nice. Smile
shoe

ॐ भूर्भुव: स्व: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं । भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि, धीयो यो न: प्रचोदयात्
Love, Gratittude, Compassion, Fearlessness!
 
Saidin
Senior Member | Skills: Aquaponics, Channeling, Spirituality, Past Life Regression Hypnosis
#16 Posted : 3/12/2009 2:52:25 AM
shoe wrote:


As for the red/yellow/orange hues and the uncomfortable dry mouth feeling... well, at this point it was
early in the morning and the sun was streaming through my window and onto my face. I think this
explains the colours more than linking it to any specific chakra. It was merely the colour of the back of
my eyelids Pleased


That would probably effect the colors you are seeing Laughing

All this hypothesizing, and it all comes down to sunlight on the eyelids...haha!
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
shoe
New member
#17 Posted : 3/12/2009 5:12:49 AM
well, I don't know. It makes sense to say that perhaps the trip came from my solar plexus chakra, perhaps because that is the chakra of "one's own place." and thats where I am atm, and spend alot of my time. In a world of my own making; so...
shoe

ॐ भूर्भुव: स्व: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं । भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि, धीयो यो न: प्रचोदयात्
Love, Gratittude, Compassion, Fearlessness!
 
shoe
New member
#18 Posted : 9/8/2010 2:12:39 AM
Update: Hmn,. well I don't beleive these things were positive to say the least. They treated my questions like "yes... well thats great. ~whirrs of instruments as they operate~"

I don't spend alot of my time in a owrld of my own making anymore. So down to earth now. So attached to reality. :s
shoe

ॐ भूर्भुव: स्व: तत्सवितुर्वरेण्यं । भर्गो देवस्य धीमहि, धीयो यो न: प्रचोदयात्
Love, Gratittude, Compassion, Fearlessness!
 
Shadowlord
#19 Posted : 9/8/2010 7:29:17 PM
Lots of great info and insights in this thread.
The more I learn the more a lot of things start to make sense.
The more things that make sense the more things I am shown. Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts everyone. Makes exploring the Spirit Molecule a little easier to assimilate.
 
godling in search
#20 Posted : 9/8/2010 7:57:06 PM
El Ka Bong wrote:

Evolved" as a word to not sound egotistical ... We are all evolved to this point, teetering on the edge of this wonderful secret ! Jump everybody .. Jump with faith ! we each have a diving board from which to jump all the way into your soul, built right in our hearts and minds ! The Star Children are right there !





**heart breaks here and grins** i love you ... thanks for saying that


......and the part about remembering... always told to remember who we are and that we're here to do something... makes me feel good i'm not the only one...there are so so many of y'all... so amazingly beautiful...
Love with no reservation..
....................................................we were made in His image..we are His body..listen to us...us, is you and me, and that person, and that other person
i was about to fall and then i met You..

i am the blind one and You are my eyes...please help me to see..

a friend of mine beat the incurable....he said, you can sleep when you die
.............................................................................................
Never here, never there, always in space, insanity is my face....resulting in unsound postings that are not to be taken serious but only as fictional writing, fantasy
.......................................................................................................................
in search of two things....ALL things to do with the Spirit and her, our completion
 
 
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