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kemist
#1 Posted : 8/3/2010 11:00:25 AM
Some very filthy rodent told ILPT that he can obtain pure a-MT, as it`s legal where he live.

ILPT couldn`t find much info and tihkal comments are both positive and negative Sad

Does any SWIMer found this to be a nice stuff ? How about toxicity ?

tihkal wrote:

DOSAGE : 15 - 30 mg, orally; 5 - 20, smoking

DURATION : 12 - 16 hrs

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 15 mg, orally) "I got a strong psychedelic experience that lasted about twelve hours, but an unexpected relief from my chronic depression that lasted for four days."

(with 20 mg, orally) "Nothing happened for three hours -- I thought I had drawn a blank. Then I became a little uncomfortable, restless, this delayed action is new to me. I feel completely washed out, exhausted. And I had a hang-over the next morning."

(with 30 mg, orally) "It felt a little like speed, strong speed. Yet I found myself yawning and in sort of a dreaminess state and quite lethargic. It lasted a long time."

(with 30 mg, orally) "Effects were first noted in just over an hour, a general numbness and a mild loss of motor coordination. This all became more pronounced over the next half hour, but my thoughts remained clear. A hand tremor and jaw tightness persisted throughout the experience. Music was OK but I didn't really connect with it. There were no open or closed-eye visuals, but there was a moderate light sensitivity that lasted the day, and the visual field was altered such as the outside world did indeed appear unreal and alien. Were there any positive aspects to the day? I talked with a friend for two hours on the telephone, with ease. And I had no appetite. But there seems little else to recommend this compound. I slept well at the 12th hour."

(with 80 mg, orally) "I shot up in an hour, and by another hour I was vomiting worse than with mescaline. Absolutely no visuals, no hallucinations, but extreme depersonalization. Thirteen hours into this and it is still go, go, go. Out with a bit of pot."

(with 100 mg, orally) "There was pupillary dilation, jaw clenching, tachycardia and vomiting. Too much. But I really liked this compound at lower dosages."

(with 4 mg, smoked) "It burns and smells bad. It took quite a while to come on. After a half hour, BINGO, there was a very slow building of a definite psychedelic. It builds slowly but strongly for another few hours to a plateau at maybe four hours after which a very slow decline sets in. But even after 18 hours following input, and after 7 hours of sleep, I awoke still feeling the effects."

(with 5 mg, smoked) "Qualitatively it was milder and less intense than mushrooms, but much longer lived. Not complex, but just a lot of very good spirit, energetic feeling, enhanced colors, attractive rhythms in music. Party stuff."

(with 6 mg, smoked) "Onset was immediate, with heart racing, enhancement of surroundings. Taste? Pee-yew!"

(with 10 mg, smoked) "While there are no true visuals to speak of, the overall picture of things seemed grainy -- as if filmed on low quality color 16mm film. There is an energized eeriness about inanimate objects. This lasted three hours."

(with 20 mg, smoked) "I inhaled several hits from my vaporizer and sat back. I felt head-pressure and uneasiness, then suddenly I became very fast. My mind was moving fast, and my body was speeding along with it in an unconscious way. Several hours into it, I began to notice more of a psychedelic effect beginning to manifest. It seemed as if the speedy part was becoming less predominant and the psychedelic visual effects were starting to kick in. I went back to my room to watch the distinctive waves of a soft red/orange visuals They were similar to colors of LSD. It gradually increased to a level of intensity similar to perhaps 0.5 - 1.0 g P. cubensis, and after several more hours it was clear that I had reached the plateau. Feeling fairly tired and ready for bed, I decided to call it a night. Quite to my surprise, when I awoke four hours later I was at the same level as when I went to sleep. Gradually over the next day I returned to baseline and I was left feeling quite euphoric with a pleasant afterglow."
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
LawnBoy
#2 Posted : 8/3/2010 12:30:30 PM
A friend told me he loved it. The colors were what he remembered the most. He said he could smell colors and vice versa. He described the peak to be something similar to the "beavis and butthead" peyote trip, without all the negativity. Je said it was very colorful and long-lasting. That's the most I got out of it. He said it was like a beefed up mescaline.
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benzyme
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#3 Posted : 8/3/2010 3:30:55 PM
that doesn't sound like amt at all.

swim went through a gram of amt via various administration methods, and got nothing resembling a classic hallucinogen.
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kemist
#4 Posted : 8/3/2010 9:41:45 PM
What dose ranges both swimers tried. ? I've heard it's a potent antidepressant in low doses
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
Ginkgo
#5 Posted : 8/3/2010 10:03:00 PM
I thought AMT was more of a releasing agent, such as MDMA and the family, than a classic hallucinogen? My impression is that it is able to cause hallucinations in higher doses, but that the intensity never goes through the roof. I wouldn't take what TiHKAL has to say on the subject as truth, both books from Shulgin is known to have a rather large number of weird comments.
 
jamie
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#6 Posted : 8/3/2010 10:50:26 PM
Ive heard AMT sucks. I had it offered to me beofore and Im glad I said no. Everyone said its like being on speed and acid sort of..but not the good side of acid..
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L_Star
#7 Posted : 8/4/2010 12:57:43 AM
Swim said "put 25mg in water to and gave it to the plants.

2+ plus 2 drags on smoke head space changes. Walk from one spot to another.

3+ Getting more noticable effects. more talk, sense of good feeling, like mdma. The chat is good and like on md, but not loved up chat, friendly joyful etc.

4+ More psyche effects comin through while smoking in dark over look through woods at night, that quiet before the storm feeling also. Begin to walk home. cant concerntrate on walking or rolling

Time memorey becomes akward to figure now

4.30 - 5+ get in, sit down and then rushing begins, with this feeling of it starting to go in to some trip, but it was like the mind then become blank. IT would all become intense then go blank, not any OEVs, but some CEVS of some sort, squares spinining. Music was enhanced and dancing would of been good.

One also had a bit of an anxitey problem at the begining that did make it feel abit more akward, and was probally because of the unexpected changes in preception.

From this part that warm fuzz explosion feeling was felt from inside till around 7-8+ hours from beginning of the start of this post. When swim looked at a screen all the things just shaked like hell.

However swim did feel as if his heart beat was uncomfatable, with a fair amount of sweating. again maybe anxeity.

In all, swims next would be to hypothetical test only small amount and find a comftable spot. Abit like mesc but that syntheic quality apparent, and also a comedown was attached to it the next day. It takes a while to kick in and may be neuro toxic.

It was like tripping and rushing??????? sorry is only simple brief way to explain with swims limited vocab.

R*R
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kemist
#8 Posted : 8/4/2010 1:15:56 AM
This dirty rodent also told Ilpt that few other pests analyzed what they've received as aMT and it was actually 5 Meo-aMT . That could explain why swimmers having different experiences.
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
L_Star
#9 Posted : 8/4/2010 1:32:42 AM
may i ask were aboouts US or UK? because I herd that also, but amt is schd in USA and theres only on place/ 2 mayb in UK.

R*R
L
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Disclaimer: EVERYTHING posted by L_Star is said from the following persons: SWIM. All are hypothetical posts and are not endorsements of any activities, beliefs, and practices stated, that may be correlated with the person stated, or another person posting, or third party user, in anyway on dmt-nexus.com. All that is said is for educational purposes and as said is "hypothetical" and therefore cannot be taken for true accounts. SWIM and L_Star abide by the Law in all practices. SWIM would like reader to note that SWIM is blind, and L_Star is a typing assistant voluntering for SWIM. L_Star is bound by legal legislation for customer privacy by Data Protection Act, therefore SWIM will not be identified.

Regards L_Star
 
kemist
#10 Posted : 8/4/2010 9:40:23 AM
L_Star wrote:
may i ask were aboouts US or UK? because I herd that also, but amt is schd in USA and theres only on place/ 2 mayb in UK.

R*R
L
You may not, for number of reasons !

Let`s have a look on the law :

United Kingdom Misuse of Drugs Regulations wrote:

SCHEDULE 1
Regulation 3


CONTROLLED DRUGS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF REGULATIONS 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 23, 26 AND 27


1. The following substances and products, namely -

(a) Bufotenine

Cannabinol

Cannabinol derivatives not being dronabinol or its stereoisomers

Cannabis and cannabis resin

Cathinone

Coca leaf

Concentrate of poppy-straw

Eticyclidine

Etryptamine

Lysergamide

Lysergide and other N-alkyl derivatives of lysergamide

Mescaline

Methcathinone

Psilocin

Raw opium

Rolicyclidine

Tenocyclidine

4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-a-methylphenethylamine

N,N-Diethyltryptamine

N,N-Dimethyltryptamine

2,5-Dimethoxy-alpha,4-dimethylphenethylamine

N-Hydroxy-tenamphetamine

4-Methyl-aminorex

(b) any compound (not being a compound for the time being specified in sub-paragraph (a) above) structurally derived from tryptamine or from a ring-hydroxy tryptamine by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the sidechain with one or more alkyl substituents but no other substituent;


AMT is not listed as controlled in Britain and does not fall under the substituted tryptamine rule because its 'substitution' is not on the nitrogen.Smile


AMT is Schedule I in the United States. This means it is illegal to manufacture, buy, possess, or distribute (sell, trade or give) without a DEA license.Sad
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
delta-9
#11 Posted : 8/4/2010 6:41:06 PM
kemist wrote:
This dirty rodent also told Ilpt that few other pests analyzed what they've received as aMT and it was actually 5 Meo-aMT . That could explain why swimmers having different experiences.


Heres some info from nexus users on 5-meo-amt, which is certainly very different to amt

https://dmt-nexus.me/for...aspx?g=posts&t=13050
 
 
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