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Saidin
Senior Member | Skills: Aquaponics, Channeling, Spirituality, Past Life Regression Hypnosis
#21 Posted : 5/30/2010 8:58:48 PM
Sublime wrote:
Opticus I believe could possibly exist, between dimensions, but if so, is HE the only one, or would there be an autonomous existence of one elsewhere we would not even have access to encounter. It seems he is not a supreme being, though, that God would be considered. I need to re-read this short story. It's so very odd.


It is my understanding that Opti is our particular galaxy's manifestation. He creates all dimensions, and the frameworks of experience which we term archetypes. Each Galaxy has its own "Opti" (Great Central Sun, or whatever you want to call that which sits at the center of/and gives form to the galaxy), and then those various galactic Opti's form the pattern for an even larger manifestation that experiences though them as Opti experiences through all life in this galaxy, ad infinitum...
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
Virola78
#22 Posted : 6/2/2010 3:46:48 AM
Pfff cant sleep for day two now.... im so tired. Damn birds are already making allot of noise, its not even 5am!! O well, the night (or early morning) is always a good time to do some work.

So i stumbled upon this thread (Opti's return ; ) And this part in particular, thx to cellux, got my attention:

OpticusWrangler wrote:
There seems to be a connective scaffolding within that space that exerts tension between discrete things, connecting them together or holding them opposite, as if, in hyperspace, it is the relationship between objects that is the primary reality, with the objects existing only as reference points. Iyam trying to accept the idea of nouns as abstract, and verbs as actuality.


Somewhat reminds me of the ideas of Deleuze..

(from the wiki)
"Deleuze's main philosophical project in his early works (i.e., those prior to his collaborations with Guattari) can be baldly summarized as a systematic inversion of the traditional metaphysical relationship between identity and difference. Traditionally, difference is seen as derivative from identity: e.g., to say that "X is different from Y" assumes some X and Y with at least relatively stable identities. To the contrary, Deleuze claims that all identities are effects of difference. Identities are neither logically nor metaphysically prior to difference, Deleuze argues, "given that there exist differences of nature between things of the same genus."[13] That is, not only are no two things ever the same, the categories we use to identify individuals in the first place derive from differences. Apparent identities such as "X" are composed of endless series of differences, where "X" = "the difference between x and x'", and "x" = "the difference between...", and so forth. Difference goes all the way down. To confront reality honestly, Deleuze claims, we must grasp beings exactly as they are, and concepts of identity (forms, categories, resemblances, unities of apperception, predicates, etc.) fail to attain difference in itself. "If philosophy has a positive and direct relation to things, it is only insofar as philosophy claims to grasp the thing itself, according to what it is, in its difference from everything it is not, in other words, in its internal difference."

And sure enough, i remember discussions with my dad when i was very young. Telling him "there is only difference.."
What do i do with this? Im not sure yet..

“The most important thing in illness is never to lose heart.” -Nikolai Lenin

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
 
Felnik
#23 Posted : 6/2/2010 4:58:25 AM



On a personal level its interesting that Opti has made a return. When i first embarked on this journey to explore the dmt realm I read everything i could get my hands on including The Opti piece. I never really got too far with it .At the time it made no sense to me whatsoever . It sounded more like the rantings of a mental patient. I dismissed it

Here i am full circle a few years later with an untold number of deep journeys under my belt . I have independently began to come to similar conclusions.

Its truly amazing. I began to have clear feeling that this was in fact some kind of organic consciousness that i was dealing with. It felt as though it had some kind of all powerful center with its power dissipating out. I felt as though after a while I was being zeroed in on and linked to it with my own consciousness.

This idea that its centered in galaxies is very interesting to me.

I began to feel this as a two way connection with this energy network feeding on me in some way. Its possible that its very existance depends on our experiencing it.

After a couple of really intense overwhelming journeys the enormity and power of it was revealed to me.

There must be a reason that we are able to access this. I can't stop thinking this. When you are lined up and getting that perfect intense carrier wave pulsing into your body there is never any doubt that its supposed to be this way. Am I right, feels as natural as any other bodily process we experience here in matter-land. this damn thing certainly knows how to concentrate love energy down to a focussed beam .

If this is some kind of symbiotic relationship and this thing is highly advanced and refined why does it give us access to it. Wouldn't it be better to keep it a total secret to your hosts?


The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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