So swim and a buddy recently smoked changa for 4 hours straight which they later paid for the next morning with very sore throats (neither smoke MJ on any sort of regular basis). That was not surprising but swim noticed when cleaning his briar that the bottom stem etc was full of a dark brown oily tar that resembled old motor oil. Swim had never noticed this when using a normal spoon pipe. Is this normal? The changa was made from 1 part shredded caapi vine, half part blue lotus, and 1 part spice. Swim thought that is was dirty liquid spice at first but it did not smell of it. OpeningPandorasBox is a fictional character created by a very imaginative but delusional person. Anything posted by OpeningPandorasBox should be considered nothing more than the incoherent ramblings of an imaginary alter ego. Under no circumstances should what is posted be considered true experiences, ideas, or advice. As far as matters of the law are concerned since OpeningPandorasBox only exists outside the realms of physical reality he is under no jurisdiction and no one within the physical world should attempt to recreate or reenact any of his fictional activity.
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Although I have not smoked the Vine, Caapi leaf is very oily as is Chaliponga. My Caapi leaf/Chaliponga changa blend tars the bong a lot. I also use blue lotus and it's not that, blur lotus runs pretty clean. I don't know how oily the vine is, but I'm guessing it's that. Peace in mind, Love in heart
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Peppermint, mullein, and lavender are all very soothing herbs to add to a blend.  Some things will come easy, some will be a test
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I too get that oily stuff in by bong stem. I do believe its from the caapi/chali mix.
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smoking anything is not really good for your lungs/throat. Vaporizing is the way to go
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I do have some mullein and peppermint coming soon in the mail. The problem I see with vaporizing is that any vaporizer out there should in theory vaporize all the spice well before many of the other alkaloids such as the harmalas etc. because it has such a low boiling point. Maybe my logic is flawed but in my experience it seems to lessen the maoi effectiveness. OpeningPandorasBox is a fictional character created by a very imaginative but delusional person. Anything posted by OpeningPandorasBox should be considered nothing more than the incoherent ramblings of an imaginary alter ego. Under no circumstances should what is posted be considered true experiences, ideas, or advice. As far as matters of the law are concerned since OpeningPandorasBox only exists outside the realms of physical reality he is under no jurisdiction and no one within the physical world should attempt to recreate or reenact any of his fictional activity.
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endlessness wrote:smoking anything is not really good for your lungs/throat. Vaporizing is the way to go SWIM's changa always smoulders. Is this bad/incorrect? Seems to work just fine. No sore throat after ~4 hours of smoking. She only tried passiflora/spice/caapi copy (1/1/0.2) so far. Do not seek the truth, just drop your opinions.
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caapi copy is probably the reason for less harsh smoke. Caapi vine is similar to shredded wood...not ideal for smoking but it does work. OpeningPandorasBox is a fictional character created by a very imaginative but delusional person. Anything posted by OpeningPandorasBox should be considered nothing more than the incoherent ramblings of an imaginary alter ego. Under no circumstances should what is posted be considered true experiences, ideas, or advice. As far as matters of the law are concerned since OpeningPandorasBox only exists outside the realms of physical reality he is under no jurisdiction and no one within the physical world should attempt to recreate or reenact any of his fictional activity.
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never a sore throat... try leading a ceremony all night, smoking mapacho and blowing agua de florida on people... your tounge and throat are raw the next day! Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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