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TheSoundofSalvia
#1 Posted : 3/16/2010 8:29:04 AM
So I found a topic in the Salvia section about Salvia Breakthrough.
Since I am unable to post a reply to that topic as I am stilla DMT Nexus fledgeling

I will post one here...

I was wondering about anyone else's thoughts on the matter of using Salvia in the dark versus light... or dim lighting.
And for Dim lighting also: Candle (firelight), or mild sun, or artifical light.

I know that my mood in any normal circumstance is affected by the type of lighting (Candles are so moody compared to an overhead flourescent light..)

So can a type of lighting affect someones hallucinations and overall expansive experience to the point of a breakthrough vs. non breakthrough?

Also, would the time of day make a difference?

Your body is effected by the change from night to day.
Almost everyone knows that without any knowledge of whether or not it is night or day time, even with a prolonged amount of sleep deprivation, a human will generally sleep at night and awaken during the day.

Also when it gets dark, or when you close you eyes it isknown that your brain startes to pump out natural amounts of DMT to start the sleep process for dreaming...

So maybe at nighttime, in a dark lit environment, could be the best and most effective time for a breakthrough experince?

If you can't see the couch, then maybe you won't start getting stuck in it?

-Rae

“Each day is a secret story woven around the radiant heart of wonder.” – From the novel ‘Eternal Echoes’
 
obliguhl
Senior Member
#2 Posted : 3/16/2010 8:35:21 AM
Best setting imho: Dark, quiet room. No distractions! Especially important if you work with Salvia, because you can easily slip out of the trance, at least if you're chewing the leaf.
 
TheSoundofSalvia
#3 Posted : 3/16/2010 8:54:37 AM
sooo. I just realized I clicked the wrong section this should be in the first question one.... sorry!
 
rOm
Senior Member
#4 Posted : 3/16/2010 9:07:14 AM
I quite like dim light, either red bulb or green bulb works well in a perfectly close room.
As well the candle lite is nice but you have to be careful to not put yourself in danger while in trance.
The best is in night or outside in summer when the sun is ending its shift...
For the total black, you may cover your eyes when you took enough.
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DeMenTed
#5 Posted : 3/16/2010 12:13:14 PM
I would say salvia is better in the dark, in daylight the visuals arent nearly as good as dmt but in the dark the visuals are very strong! When i took a big hit of sally it didnt matter if my eyes were open or not, the visuals were the same. The only danger is that it can be scary and you may start wandering around in real life, a sitter is a must for a big dose.
 
DeMenTed
#6 Posted : 3/16/2010 12:14:12 PM
Also turn your phone off, it has a nasty habit of ringing while in a sally trip, it did with me anyway lol.
 
rOm
Senior Member
#7 Posted : 3/16/2010 1:52:27 PM
DeMenTed wrote:
Also turn your phone off, it has a nasty habit of ringing while in a sally trip, it did with me anyway lol.

AHAHA to me too, or right before lighting the pipe, blowing all the air before inhaling and "RING" !!!
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
jacetea
#8 Posted : 3/16/2010 2:48:45 PM
I find I can't get a proper breakthrough with salvia. For me, the effects come so fast I don't have time for a third hit. I remember one time I inhaled the smoke once and exhaled with full intention of pulling again...I look down at my lighter and it was a door knob. My carpet was a wall of doors and the bong was a decoration.

Personally I prefer dim light. I always trip after about 8:00pm so it's usually pretty dark out. I always close my eyes when I trip but with salvia sometimes I don't even remember to do that.
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TheSoundofSalvia
#9 Posted : 3/17/2010 12:34:00 PM
Thanks for reminding me to do it outside in the summer, thanks guys!
 
fractal rider
#10 Posted : 3/17/2010 1:29:43 PM
yeah ding outside sounds nice swim has never tried salvia outdoors only indoors i like very quiet no music or any type of sound that could distract you indeed the mostimportant thing i think is to do in a safe place and in peace would love to try at night how do you think it compares from doing it at daylight?
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XBudBomberX
#11 Posted : 3/18/2010 6:55:53 PM
Whats up you swimmers, so I see you guys are interested about breaking into the salviazone which can be an indescrible experience that goes beyond all human understandings if you really break through, and you'll know when you do. I enjoy smoking either the PurpleSticky Salvia 60 to 80x or one of my other favorite brands is SalviaZone which I have done up to purple, the beyond level. If you want to get creative with this stuff you can either sandwhich pack a bowl with weed, meaning salvia in the center and weed underneath and ontop of the salvia. Basically, bowl + screen + pinch of weed + SALVIA + more weed= Smoke with torch and go astral! I recommend using a bong when you smoke the extract. Anyway you can try smoking salvia completely naked or even hit it and dive underwater, I know thats some crazy shit for real. Try smoking in pitch blackness as it will help with breaking through and vissuals and auditorials. Try smoking out in nature in good weather by yourself or smoke with a friend. Another good trick is to not worry too much about breaking through and let it happen on its own. A torch lighter works the best on Salvinorum A. so I recommend that. Having some music on can be helpful it's just whatever you prefer silence or music, meditation msuic is what I like. Another thing turn your damn phone off when you do this or any device that can cause distractions. Furthermore, be safe when you smoke this herb it's just as powerful as DMT. And, if you want to go really far out smoke a mixed bowl with Sally and DMT either 5 MEO or N'N, either will blow your fucking mind. Just some thoughts, peace people.Cool
 
1664
#12 Posted : 3/18/2010 9:24:08 PM
^^be safe when you hit it? You mean like not jumping under water afterwards?
Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery.
Sic transit gloria mundi

 
headphoneperson
#13 Posted : 3/18/2010 9:50:04 PM
Swimming on Salvia...how about sky-diving?

SWIM has always preferred the dark, maybe a night-light or starlight if outside at most. Nevertheless, for a true breakthrough experience, SWIM has found it doesn't matter much where he is -- Salvia tends to completely and utterly dissolve everything in the here-and-now anyway, eyes open or not, daylight, night-time, no matter. SWIM has curiously never had any interest whatsoever in the 'real world' when on Salvia.
~ hpp
 
rOm
Senior Member
#14 Posted : 3/18/2010 10:00:27 PM
XBudBomberX wrote:
Whats up you swimmers, so I see you guys are interested about breaking into the salviazone which can be an indescrible experience that goes beyond all human understandings if you really break through, and you'll know when you do. I enjoy smoking either the PurpleSticky Salvia 60 to 80x or one of my other favorite brands is SalviaZone which I have done up to purple, the beyond level. If you want to get creative with this stuff you can either sandwhich pack a bowl with weed, meaning salvia in the center and weed underneath and ontop of the salvia. Basically, bowl + screen + pinch of weed + SALVIA + more weed= Smoke with torch and go astral! I recommend using a bong when you smoke the extract. Anyway you can try smoking salvia completely naked or even hit it and dive underwater, I know thats some crazy shit for real. Try smoking in pitch blackness as it will help with breaking through and vissuals and auditorials. Try smoking out in nature in good weather by yourself or smoke with a friend. Another good trick is to not worry too much about breaking through and let it happen on its own. A torch lighter works the best on Salvinorum A. so I recommend that. Having some music on can be helpful it's just whatever you prefer silence or music, meditation msuic is what I like. Another thing turn your damn phone off when you do this or any device that can cause distractions. Furthermore, be safe when you smoke this herb it's just as powerful as DMT. And, if you want to go really far out smoke a mixed bowl with Sally and DMT either 5 MEO or N'N, either will blow your fucking mind. Just some thoughts, peace people.Cool


OUCH !!!! Dive underwater ? I used to feel already I wasn't breathing anymore when breakingthrough, being in a place with no air, probably due to body unawareness, but dive under water ?????
You want to play total danger with your physical body.
This is not safe at all !!!

Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
TheSoundofSalvia
#15 Posted : 3/18/2010 10:04:03 PM
I have tried the Purple Sticky Salvia, I actually have some right now.

Though i'd like to eventually try out fresh leaves in a tea or by chewing them.

Diving into a pool does some dangerous.. I know that, apparently Wink , swimming on Magic Mushies can be an amazing experience.

For some reason I have had uncomfortable experiences with having my eyes open in the light..
I have an internal dislike for material objects in some way. Because I love nature so much. I always long to be roaming through forest or ocean.

So I should think that a proper trial with the Salvia should been done during the summer, camping outdoors, (real camping), with some friends. Once during the day.. at a kind warm and sunlit spot and another at night by a warm fire.

It sounds like everyone is different so I'll just have to take bigger and longer hits and try not to think so much.... ..
Shocked
 
rOm
Senior Member
#16 Posted : 3/18/2010 10:09:32 PM
TSF, you know the good thing about nature setting is that if you hold it, it's not gonna be as bad as melting in the table or a dirty carpet !! And you may find some really interesting happening in hte woods while there.
I had great travel in a hammoc looking at the sky in the morning, travelling time space in the andes... It's working like a door.
But it's true as well that it is comfy in a room indoor and let this materiality dissolve until nothing exist anymore....
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
TheSoundofSalvia
#17 Posted : 3/18/2010 10:45:31 PM
Yea I doubt I would mind melding into a tree of some grass.

For some reson I get trapped in a layered world of repeating beds that extend on forever...that is all moving in one direction.. and I cannot help but move with it..

The thing is, last time I let my ego go...i started tipping over so my sitter tipped me back..and that brought me back to my body! Dangit.

Gunna try the hammock thing, that sounds amazing!
 
 
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