Hi all!
First of all thank you for a most beautiful forum!
And yea the subject pretty much says it all.. I wondered because meditation for me is the most important thing in life, and I know a lot of you meditate to. And I'm not talking about meditation beforehand or afterward, but while you're under the influence.
I thought that it might be a very interesting way to use spice, if it is at all possible to focus in that realm of consciousness.
Have a nice day!
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Maybe on a pharma journey, but on vaped spice, hmmm.
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I always thought that the neurotransmission pretty much forces you into a meditative state. 
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Deep Meditative Trance have you ever taken that ferry from San Francisco to Berkeley and looked back and seen that while in Berkeley, San Francisco doesn't exist?
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۩ wrote:I always thought that the neurotransmission pretty much forces you into a meditative state. That's how I feel too. Meditation is not something 'you' do. It is a natural state. A meditative state. A state that IS there when the psychology is dislodged. The transmission blasts 'you' and the 'meditative state' is what's remaining, because it was there in the first place. Observation occurs seemingly without an observer. .....from the perspective of this body anyway. "Within your heart is a lotus, and within this lotus is a diamond. This diamond is the source of creation, and in all the creation, there is only one lotus."
"Only from the Heart can you touch the sky." ~ Rumi
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Dimitrius wrote:۩ wrote:I always thought that the neurotransmission pretty much forces you into a meditative state. That's how I feel too. Meditation is not something 'you' do. It is a natural state. A meditative state. A state that IS there when the psychology is dislodged. The transmission blasts 'you' and the 'meditative state' is what's remaining, because it was there in the first place. Observation occurs seemingly without an observer. .....from the perspective of this body anyway. very well put! Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery.
Sic transit gloria mundi
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1664 wrote:Dimitrius wrote:۩ wrote:I always thought that the neurotransmission pretty much forces you into a meditative state. That's how I feel too. Meditation is not something 'you' do. It is a natural state. A meditative state. A state that IS there when the psychology is dislodged. The transmission blasts 'you' and the 'meditative state' is what's remaining, because it was there in the first place. Observation occurs seemingly without an observer. .....from the perspective of this body anyway. very well put! Is that always what happens for you when you travel? I've heard about others who talks about being in hyperspace, but being 'you' without any changes in personality, feelings etc. (namely Terence Mckenna).
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Smoke DMT and see for yourself.
Most folks even bust out spontaneous mudras. Or they'll have to straighten their spine from the surge of kundalini. Even without any awareness of this. It is the nature of heightened states of consciousness.
And yes, when I travel, it's the deepest meditations humanly possible. Every time.
Some can/want to practice simple asanas and mudras in hyperspace
while for others it occurs inevitably/unconsciously
Others don't go with the flow....
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