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The easiest way to take a pharmahuasca trip Options
 
Iamprotoss
#1 Posted : 6/23/2023 9:07:09 AM
I just want to let others know of the easiest, no nausea, no stomach ache, no side effect way to experience DMT that I have been successfully using for the past year.

You need moclobemide and powdered mhrb.
No extraction needed and I guess the dosage depends on how potent your mhrb is so be careful with dosage and start conservatively until you have a good idea of the potency of your bark powder.

I think I have an extremely potent batch, but I have about half a kilo of powdered bark. All I do is scoop half a tablespoon of bark into a saucepan, add a couple cups of water and bring to boil. Let it reduce down to under a cup of liquid and then just strain it using coffee filter into a cup. You can add a little more boiling water through the filter too top off the cup and get as much stuff out of the material as possible, but whatever is left in the gunk is either insignificant, or there is plenty left for a second dose but I haven’t tried. That one cup of filtered liquid has enough dmt for a strong experience.

Light vegetarian meal an hour beforehand recommended.

Take 150g moclobomide. I’m pretty sensitive to medication (65kg male), I have tried with 300 and it was way too strong, with a trip lasting like what felt like an eternity. I strongly recommend taking just 150g, especially if you are trying this for the first time.

Wait 30 minutes then just drink the mhrb tea you made. It should be slightly bitter and tart, but not particularly difficult to drink. Much much (100x) better than drinking without filtering which I have also tried.

Lie down, close your eyes, and within 20 to 30 mins, you’ll have pretty unforgettable experience.

I tried with a full tablespoon when I first tried this method, thinking there is no way there would be enough dmt in a simple filtered mhrb tea, thinking it might give me threshold effects. At that dose, it felt like I broke reality, everything was just some 4 dimensional Tessellating fractal crystal like existence that lasted forever… so again, Dont underestimate the dose.

Dont cold filter mhrb, you do not know what microbes,organisms, bacteria are in your root bark, boiling will kill off anything that may be harmful.

This method has zero body load, it is the cleanest trip I have ever had with ayahuasca.
 
Tomtegubbe
#2 Posted : 6/23/2023 2:19:45 PM
Thank you for your report. Haven't tried filtering mhrb but will definitely give it a try!

Haven't had the opportunity to try moclobemide + DMT, but it's good to hear it works.

I wonder why you don't get nausea with this combo, because I have been in the understanding that it's the serotonin receptor binding effects that cause the nausea with DMT and it binds to the 5HT3 receptors responsible for nausea as well as the 5HT2A receptors that are believed to be mainly responsible for the psychedelic effects.
My preferred method:
Very easy pharmahuasca recipe

My preferred introductory article:
Just a Wee Bit More About DMT, by Nick Sand
 
Iamprotoss
#3 Posted : 6/23/2023 2:31:52 PM
I just want to add a couple of extra points learned from my experimentation with this method that may help anyone wanting to try this out:

1) Can I increase moclobemide dosage and reduce mhrb to save on the later and still get the same effect?
No. I find that increasing moclobemide dosage increases the amount of anxiety and negative effects felt. I have tried taking moclobemide on its own to see if I could feel its effects. 150mg is pretty much transparent and I can barely feel I have taken anything. 300mg feels a little like I'm on a low dose of caffeine throughout the day - a little anxious, and not all that relaxed. I find that during the experience, you want to minimize any anxiety, so 150mg is the perfect dose for a really clean, smooth experience.

2) The timing window is important. 30 minutes (to maybe 40 mins max) after the moclobomide is taken is the best time. MHRB tea does not take long to digest, and I have found this is the perfect windows to maximize both peak and length of trip. The peak experience for me lasts about 1.45 to 2 hours, with coming back to mostly baseline (with a super HD visual afterglow in about 4-4.5 hours after ingestion. You will be able to go outside after the 4 hour mark and be confident walking around the park and just feel absolutely amazing. In about 6 hours, it feels like you haven't taken anything at all.

3) Do not underestimate the potency of moclobemide. Again, the reason I really think 150g is enough, is if you do inadvertently take too high a dosage of DMT, the moclobemide dosage is low enough that you will come back to some sense of reality in about 2 hours. Moclobemide is a VERY, and I mean VERY good MAO inhibitor. The minimal side effects it has at effective dosage is the cherry on top. Take too high a dosage of it, and your body will go into panic if you find yourself too far out, because there is nothing it can do to get back to baseline. You just have to hold out in whatever state you are in and pray things return to normal. I have been there - terrifying does not begin to describe it. The time you wait is the time it takes for the moclobemide to get out of your system.

4) Do not use this method over consecutive days and expect the same result. Moclobemide actually increases in efficacy after repeated dosage. A week or 2 minimum break in between if you want to repeat the experience. Moclobemide seems to compound somewhat taking it the following day, and I think your mind really needs a break between experiences of such magnitude.

5) I have tried moclobemide with extracted DMT and it is not the same. This MHRB tea comes on much more gently, lasts longer, and has a wonderful afterglow. When I have tried this with extracted DMT, it has been more chaotic and frightening, with a confusing comedown (not necessarily stronger peak). I think the tea extract may have other alkaloids that compliment the trip, or its more diluted nature somehow helps. There have been times on the tea method, during the peak, I feel like I've done too much and for sure will throw away everything once I come down and vow to never do it again, but once I do come down, I am still in awe of the experience, feel like my brain has been cleansed, and know I will someday visit the experience again.

If you have any questions regarding this method, I'll try my best to answer it.
 
Iamprotoss
#4 Posted : 6/23/2023 2:38:40 PM
Tomtegubbe wrote:
Thank you for your report. Haven't tried filtering mhrb but will definitely give it a try!

Haven't had the opportunity to try moclobemide + DMT, but it's good to hear it works.

I wonder why you don't get nausea with this combo, because I have been in the understanding that it's the serotonin receptor binding effects that cause the nausea with DMT and it binds to the 5HT3 receptors responsible for nausea as well as the 5HT2A receptors that are believed to be mainly responsible for the psychedelic effects.



Hey Tomtegubbe, do you get nausea when smoking DMT? I personally don't, so I don't think it is DMT that causes nausea, I do get it when taking Harmalas for ayahuasca. Moclobemide as a substitute (at the correct does) completely eliminates the nausea (although I have tried my method without filtering (just boiling and then shaking and consuming the result whole, and did have nausea, so there is definitely compounds in the bark that will cause nausea if not filtered).

It is a real shame the moclobemide has not been approved for use in the USA, so a lot in this community may have trouble accessing it Sad It is an amazing discovery and underrated for what it can do.
 
 
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