I did two large pharmahuasca sessions recently. Once two nights ago. 2/14/22 and one about 3 weeks before that. Both were unbelievable. But the one two nights ago was next level.

T -00:35 dosed 300mg freebase harmala crystals dissolved in hot lemon water. Plugged it.

T 00:00 dosed 350mg full spectrum freebase dmt along with another 150mg freebase harmalas both dissolved in hot lemon water. Plugged both of them.

I had everything premade and ready to go. Both of those doses. As well as six redoses. For the redoses I filled three 50ml PP5 test tubes with hot lemon water and 100mg each full spectrum freebase DMT and 100mg harmalas. I also added a bit of limeade concentrate to the redoses. As I was going to be drinking them. And then I planned to take half of each one of these about 45 minutes apart. For 6 redoses of 50mg each dmt and harmalas. I also premade a big bowl of changa with a big pile of full spectrum freebase crystals on top. Just for good measure. In the Motar coil for my Pico Eleaf istick mod. And a bowl of freebase harmala in the Yocan Evolve Plus vape. I had thought I would be able to take several separate rips of this mid peak. And should just take a small amount to breakthrough with full MAO Inhibition and plenty of dmt already in my system.

A little note on dosage. My dmt has sat around for a couple years. And shows some obvious signs of oxidation. So it's likely not quite as potent as a recent extraction.

The earlier session about 3 weeks before this was similar doses without all the redoses. And more like 300mg plugged. But not all of the liquid got used up. So some of it was left in the bowl and evaporated. Used the same bowl this time. So it was more like 50mg of that went to the second more recent dose. So more like 300mg on the previous one and 400mg on this recent dose. Before all of the redoses. The previous time I had a bowl of changa sitting aside as well. But then never actually used it. Better to be prepared and not use it. Then not be prepared.

T 00:45 I was still not feeling anything yet. Which surprised me, because the previous time I was starting to get light visuals 15 minutes in. So I was starting to worry a bit that it might be some kind of failure to launch even with such a large dose. So I took the first redose then. It was about 15 or 20 minutes later that it started to kick in. I stayed fully immersed in the dmt realm. The only uncomfortable part of plugging the dose; is first 45 minutes or so. Feels like your holding in a liquid deuce. Gotta just lay down, pucker up and hold it. It goes away as soon as the liquid absorbs in. I think the longer wait would be mostly that the previous time I delayed longer between the MAOI dose and the main dose. So all of that was already absorbed. And the previous time I used less liquid for both doses. So it took less time to absorb in. I liked it this way. Except that I would use the longer delay again between MAOI dose and main dose. closer to an hour next time.

T 1:00 Visions started kicking in. All closed eye visuals. At first they were sparse. On and off. I'd have a short vision and then be out.

T 1:30 From here all the way to T 10:30 I was constantly immersed in visions. Only snapping completely out for the first time at T 10:30.

T 4:00 Was so far deep in the dmt realm. Was with it enough to remember to take a redose. Drank the second redose. Tasted like death.

T 6:00 Drank the third redose.

T 8:00 Drank the fourth redose. Started feeling quite nauseas by this time.

T 10:30 Just like that. All of a sudden snapped right of out of it. First time since it kicked in around T 1:00 that I was right out of the dmt realm. After being immersed in the dmt realm for so long. It was just gone. Just like that. I had used up 4 of the 6 redoses. And I was already feeling fairly nauseas after the 4th redose. But still I managed to get down that 5th redose. It tasted like death. Every redose began tasting a bit worse. I was immediately feeling much more nauseas. And I knew there was no way I was going to be able to stomach that 6th redose. About 10 minutes after the 5th redose I eyeballed the bowl changa sitting there. And decided to finally get vaping the bowl of changa. Vaped a small amount of freebase harmalas first. And then I sat there vaping a big bowl of changa. Like a fiend trying to get back in the dmt realm. And was just getting absolutely nothing from it. Seemed like I was running in to a solid wall. It didn't help that I was too high to remember how to change the profile on my arctic fox firmware on my mod. And the first profile that I was on was too low of wattage to get a big plume of vapor. So I took 7 - 10 small hits of the changa. But I didn't seem to be getting anything from it. So I set it down. Thinking I might pick it back up if that redose kicks in. I layed back down and was thinking I must've hit a wall of tryptamine tolerance. So I just layed there enjoying the dmt headspace and afterglow. Listening to music. Enjoying the music so much.

T 10:50 Seemingly out of nowhere and almost unexpectedly that 5th redose kicked in and another wave of dmt came over me. I stayed in the dmt realm for another 45 minutes or so. This last wave wasn't near as intense as the peak experience. But it was still very intense. And extremely enjoyable. I was so grateful to be back. It was still probably what most people would consider a very intense experience.

T 11:35 Snapped out again. This time for good. I was feeling really nauseas by this time. Never did use up that last redose. So it turned out to be 5 redoses. I'll figure out what to do with that last redose. Unless I'm going to go for another pharma dose soon. I'll probably just freeze it.

T 13:00 Had to puke. Got up and rushed to the bathroom just in time to projectile vomit everything out of my stomach repeatedly. Tasted just as bad coming back up. And like neon bright green from the limeade. Took the first deuce around the same time.

T 13:30 Jumped in the shower. As I had sweat profusely while tripping. And I knew it would feel gross to go to sleep like that.

T 14:00 My alarm went off. It was now 8am. I dosed at 6pm. Hadn't attempted to sleep yet. Continued to enjoy the dmt headspace and afterglow. And then went to sleep about an hour later.



This recent dose was full spectrum dmt. But the previous one was regular dmt. While this recent one was far more intense and much much longer lasting with all of the redoses. It was also very different in nature to the previous one. This recent one despite being extremely intense and much higher dose. It was mostly closed eye visuals. The trip was happening inside my third eye. The previous trip, although much less intense was open eyed visuals. Happening out in the room. I haven't done enough large pharma doses to know if that's an innate difference with oral full spectrum dmt. I did enjoy the recent full spectrum one much more. But with such different dose sizes. It's like comparing apples and oranges. The previous one seemed to be mostly eye candy though. This one had some definite messages. There was definitely an intelligence there. There was definitely some things I was expected to learn.

At one point there was an entity that seemed to take over my phone. I was playing this really great spotify playlist. And there was this really intrusive commercial coming on mid peak. So I went to go my phone to see if I could skip it or something. Because this message was not resonating with me and didn't seem fitting for the peak of a dmt trip. As I went to see if I could skip it. My phone went to lock screen. And refused to unlock. The image of the lock screen changed. And wouldn't allow my password. And there seemed to be an invisible intelligence there. Whether it was just my higher consciousness or what.

A few times during the trip I was visited by what seemed to be 'other me' or like alternate versions of me or something. During the trip there would often be a whole bunch of 'windows' open like on a computer. Where you have a whole bunch of tabs open. With separate things going on in each 'window'. One would float away and there'd be a bunch others there. Often on slightly different planes. One in partially in front of another. I've noticed this same phenomena with high dose psilohuasca trips. Of which I have a ton of experience with. A few of these times with a bunch of different windows open. It was like a bunch of other versions of me coming to post a comment. Like my mind was some kind of social media page. Whether this was supposed to be future me, or me of an alternate reality, or maybe just subconscious me, or some other aspect of me. I'm not really sure. But that aspect of the trip was very memorable.

There was also a big focus on death during the trip. Which I wasn't expecting. I've got a couple of kind of distant relatives that are going through cancer. And they both played in to it for a while. Part of the trip felt like I was going through some kind of death cycle. There was some kind of name that came to this while it was happening. But I can't remember at the moment.

There was several fairly unusual beings that I encountered. I would often be around them fairly briefly. And then they'd be gone. I definitely had a bit of mindfuck. Not the same way that mushroom trips give mindfuck. Where they change your thought patterns that you'd never think normally. But mindfuck, where it just hard to think. Just not completely clear. I think this mostly the harmalas. I know I overshoot the amount of harmalas I need. I'll dial this back a bit next time. But I also noticed there'd be a bit of extra mindfuck when I was around some of these beings. I messaged a buddy mid peak. And it took just about my whole mental capacity to manage write out a few words.

There were a few moments in the trip where I was a bit anxious, but it was generally very blissful. And an extremely enjoyable experience. That I value greatly. I know now that high dose pharma is going to be my jam. I also feel like being in that realm for so long on pharma trips makes me a little less anxious to step up and vape for a breakthrough again.

Next time I also really need to have the balls to vape crystal or changa mid peak. And not wait until the T 10:30 mark next time. I really want to see what it's like to have some breakthrough experiences mid high dose dose pharma. Ended up staggering the doses quite a bit further apart than I was expecting. And the overall experience lasted quite a bit longer than I was expecting.

At one point mid peak I thought I was going through and helping other people in the dmt realm. Helping them through difficult dark trips. Thought I saw maybe a few of y'all in there.

The plugged part of the dose was so much more comfortable than the part I drank. No nausea. The closest thing to any uncomfortable part of it is the first 45 minutes or so it feels like you're holding back a big deuce. As soon as it absorbs in, that feeling goes away. If pharma makes you nauseas like most of us. You should consider trying this ROA. When done correctly it's magical. And the first pharma session had no nausea what so ever. Fairly hung over the following day in both cases. More so the second one. That's pretty much the harmalas. I get hungover over from mushroom trips only when I add in MAOI. The fact that the harmalas freebase taste like ass would suggest that they are mostly harmaline?

Plenty for me to unpack yet. It can be very difficult to remember some of the details. I wish I could remember every detail. I also wish I could I could stay in that realm for days on end. Maybe some day.

This molecule is life. Such complexity. Such a welcome back to this molecule. I can't believe I went as long as I did without it. I had an account on here in 2011 and 2012. And did many extractions back then. I mostly vaped dmt. Often with an MAOI. Broke through 25 or 30 times. After some legal issues I stayed away from extractions for a long time. High dose Psilocybin and high dose Psilohuasca has been my jam for a while now since. But after some more recent legal issues again. Before this recent pharma and the one 3 weeks ago. It had been a year and a half since I touched any tryptamine. So my tryptamine tolerance would've been pretty low before these doses. At least I should start building a good reverse tolerance for MAOI soon again. But I can't wait to combine pharma with high dose psilohuasca. Who's tried this? Does the dmt dose end up lasting nearly as long as the mushroom trip? With the bit of MAO being used up breaking down psilocybin? Gotta wait until I've got some fruits. I've got a bunch of things on agar now. Also anybody have any comments on the full spectrum, despite being a much higher dose and much more intense experience, still being mostly closed eye visuals? Compared to the lighter dose pharma session and less intense experience being mostly open eyed visuals. Out in the room. The first pharma session I spent some significant amount of time at 'the wall'. Shimmering multi colored wall. With bright colors. Each petal being a different color. And then a petal would open and you see something behind it. It would lift up like it was on a hinge. And behind each one that opened you'd see something different.

Just a warning. I've seen many people write hellish experience reports of pharma doses way smaller than mine. I feel like my many many extremely high dose psilohuasca experiences have prepared me fairly well for high dose pharmahuasca. But don't take it lightly if you don't have the experience.



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Here's what the pics of the nights activities looked like. The Six redoses in the three PP5 test tubes. Worked quite conveniently. The MAOI dose and the main dose in the two bowls. Changa in the vape mod. And harmine FB in the yocan.

This is the Spotify playlist I was listening to:

https://open.spotify.com...i=7joi734yRL-12eoJfCa97g

Next time you're going on a DMT trip check it out. Especially a long pharma trip. If you've got a good DMT playlist share it here.

Last night. Two days after this recent pharma session, I attempted to vape for a breakthrough. It was of kind of a fail. Kind of cringey for me. I almost forgot how much of a body load, and how intense and strange feeling a just sub breakthrough dose is. First I took 30mgs freebase harmala crystals sublingually. And then for good measure I vaped a small bowl of freebase harmalas. Loaded up 75mg of full spectrum dmt in to the Motar coil of my Pico Eleaf mod vape. I attempted to take it all in one giant hit. It didn't vape it all. And one large hit wasn't quite enough for a breakthrough. I couldn't bring myself to take another hit. Back in the day vaping for a breakthrough was my way. But after how comfortable and beautiful and long lasting pharma is. I think pharma is my way now. So much more like a mushroom trip. So much more comfortable. Not getting shot out of a cannon.

I'm going to begin working on developing a reverse tolerance for harmalas again. I have some capsules that are 250mg of 5x extract. So equal to about 1.25gr of rue seeds each. I'm going to start taking 2 or 3 of these each day. See where that gets me. And start reducing the dose if and when I start to notice a noticeable amount of reverse tolerance. I can notice the MAOI to them even with a single capsule. This isn't the same harmala I was taking with my pharma. But I will start using these ones for redosing pharma MAOI at least.

I'm very much looking forward to my next pharma dose. Not sure when that'll be. Probably not for a few weeks anyways. I may try a smaller dmt dose than the last one, but see if I can extend it much longer. Spreading the harmala dose over a much longer period. And possibly have some amount of reverse tolerance built up by then.

Great reports, particularly that you chose the plugging route. What was the volume of each dose? I wasn't sure if those were 25mL or 50mL tubes.

And thanks for the music recommendation, I'll add it to my list.


Welcome to the Nexus!

Welcome back.

I thank you for the music share as well.

It sounds like you've experienced "sudden lockout," where lockout occurs midexperience. I have a few buddies and acquaintances this has happened to. It was interesting to me that you got back in. And good on you for trying and being successful and it still being a good experience. Lockout is a mystery, and who knows if the dreaded hyperslap could've been delivered as a result of getting back in.

It seems most are not fond of the sub-breakthrough experience (I'm an exception, I generally enjoy any level of experience). Do you plan on trying to vape it again for a breakthrough anytime soon?

But thank you for sharing such a detailed report. Sounds like a hell of a night

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And thanks for the responses.

The full bowl is about 150ml. The lesser filled bowl was the initial MAOI dose. And the full bowl is the main/initial dose of DMT along with some more MAOI. They both got plugged.

But the pp5 test tubes are 50ml. I drank them for the redoses. But I just drank half of them at a time. So 25ml - 50mg redoses. I didn't feel like plugging mid peak was going to be feasible. Maybe after I've tried it a few more times.

The first pharma session I used quite a bit less liquid. But I realized afterwards not all of the DMT dissolved. As I could still see some flecks of DMT. So this time I made sure to use quite a bit more liquid. As I'm sure I wasted some DMT last time. I also made sure to leave them sit in a hot water bath for some time this time. Really made sure the DMT was fully dissolved this time.

Yeah, the plugged method of administration is 100% nausea free. And so much more comfortable. Apparently MAOI is quite a bit more effective that way as well. My experiences have been substantially longer this way than typical pharma doses. My previous session, even without any redoses peaked for around 4 hours. Apparently it's just short of injecting.

No problem. It really does synergize quite well with a DMT pharma session.

Yeah, I've experienced that before. It was a bit of surprise for me, for it to come back. And I couldn't have wanted it more.

Yeah, I'm not a fan at all of the sub breakthrough dose. For me vaping it's breakthrough or nothing. For me when I first started back in the day I did enjoy the smaller ones. But they were often quite a bit less so. Like either breakthrough or nowhere near it. This being just short of it and feeling like your head's about to pop off is not for me.

I'm not completely sure. I think I'll probably attempt to toke some smaller hits while I'm already peaking on pharma. See if I can breakthrough a few times that way. Unless I feel like I can get it down to reliably breakthrough every single time on one giant hit. I feel like I get more out of the much longer slower pharma sessions. And I feel so much more comfortable with them. So probably my next time vaping will be mid peak. As my last few times have not been comfortable.

Yeah, thank you for reading and expressing some interest. It really was a hell of a night. The start of my love affair with pharma. I don't feel like there's any dose size or length of trip with pharma that scares me. I can't wait to eventually try combining it with psilocybin.

For building up harmala reverse tolerance, I settled in on taking 2 capsules throughout the day and then 3 more capsules a few hours before bed. 5 capsules being equal to about 6.25gr of rue seeds per day. This dose doesn't give me full on nausea. But I do feel some light awareness of my stomach. Just a very faint nausea feel. I wake up in the morning still feeling some MAOI from the night before. I think I should be able to build up a fairly good reverse tolerance with this dose. It does feel like this dose already hits me a bit harder directly following the pharma.


I decided I am going to go back in for another attempt at vaping for a breakthrough right away. I think I'll change up my method a bit. Still similar with the MAOI. Other than now that I am taking capsules of peganum harmala extract every day anyways. I may as well take 4 or so of those capsules an hour or so before vaping. And vape a little freebase harmalas for good measure. And then instead of going for one giant hit. I'll take a reasonable sized hit first to get part way there. Without taking enough for the dreaded hyperslap. Hold it as long as possible. And then go in right after for a giant hit attempting to breakthrough. I definitely do crave that breakthrough dose. I haven't had a proper breakthrough in ages. But I want to do it in a way that hopefully avoids that nearly breakthrough, but not quite.


A couple things I meant to mention in the original post. I did fast for about 24 hours before each of the pharma doses. It's easy enough just not to eat the day of the dose. This probably isn't so crucial if you did plug the entire dose. And then it was still about another 21 hours after dosing that I ate something.


Another thing I meant to mention. I am an energy healer. I can sense and feel subtle energy to an extreme level. And the first few days after a pharma dose. Holy man. Feels like your getting blasted with energy. Especially the first few hours after you wake up.


I'm also a lucid dreamer. I often have lucid dreams. And very vivid intense dreams. I am hoping the occasional pharma dose will help me have more frequent lucid dreams. I definitely had some fairly intense vivid dreams the last few nights.