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Jin
#21 Posted : 12/5/2020 6:36:09 PM
Man! you're percieving all this negatively , it wasn't meant like that

Relax Smile
illusions !, there are no illusions
there is only that which is the truth
 
thetranceengineer
#22 Posted : 12/5/2020 7:15:39 PM
Ok well suppose it's case closed anyway haha Thumbs up
 
rOm
Senior Member
#23 Posted : 12/5/2020 7:44:46 PM
thetranceengineer wrote:
I'll be sure not to post this harm reduction subject again just for you as it seems to be upsetting you! Thumbs up

Anyway this post is pointless now as my question has been answered and the conclusion is that coke and dmt are sound in the human body at the same time!

If there's away to turn my email notifications for this post off, believe me I would...

Or even better get it deleted as I am unaware if that is an option ...


Yeh sorry if I soundedharsh but wasn't really aiming at you as Jin said ( thanks buddy to stand out ), but honestly,after now 10 years of online drug harm reduction practice, I have the tendancy to take your question like a public question and the possible answer I will make,be public and for everyone. Not to sound condescending, but I replied to you as if we are in a packed room. So again, no,I said it, if you have DMT or cokein your system it won't likely put your life at risk to mix the two. But again, it isn't either a nice addition. Now I had coffee anedtook harmalas short after,and mixed number of other "unwanted" substances in other books. I did also survived mentally andphysically to what seems like a recipe fopr disaster, mental asylum or even morgue to some other case subjects,but I will not encourage others to do so. Cause you see the risks and trust me I know to risks and benefits pretty well for me and am more risk taker. so no,you aren't gonna go flatlined if you do this combo. Just saying there isn't IME and IMO any benefits in doing so. But it's all up to you, now that you ask other opinions. I also bared in mind other people may be a bit compromised by reading this also destructive substance, and that,when having been in the path of addictive drugs, could feel an urge. sometimes you or me don't always evaluate all the wavelenght our world and action may have.. on ours, let alone on others around us. SO didn't meantolecture you,but rather, have a more global and common conscious lecture of the subject.
Peace and stay safe. But it's not big deal, and no love lost.
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
thetranceengineer
#24 Posted : 12/5/2020 8:14:14 PM
No worries. I apologise for being a bit ratty to you, I think I did take it the wrong way a bit and perceived it as a bit of an attack.

I do understand where you're coming from and have definitely taken it on board. Will defo try and be a bit more mindful in the future. What you've said regarding other people, and their own lives id say had definitely skipped my mind a bit but I can understand what you were getting at now.

Obviously, and I think you could probably guess, mental health or previous addictions etc have never been an issue for me or those around me so has never really been something that's been at the front of my mind. And if anything I've ended up learning more from you, and I will now make an effort to understand other peoples situations. I also don't like or support negativity and has been one of the great things of noticed on the nexus, that it is extremely positive.

Id consider myself semi experienced regarding psychedelics, but on the big scale of things, still very inexperienced, especially compared to yourself and some of the other knowledgeable people on here. The information is extremely valuable to me and i do appreciate any feedback that I get.

So suppose this post has been a bit of a learning curve for me. Sorry again for being a bit harsh and will definitely be more mindful in the future. Take it easy.

 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#25 Posted : 12/5/2020 8:58:54 PM
There was a discussion a good while back:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=417647#post417647

While DMT and cocaine may in principle be physically safe for those with a sufficiently robust cardiovascular system (and mind) the same does not necessarily apply to combinations containing harmala alkaloids. It's prudent to discourage concomitant use of DMT and cocaine because of the risk that would accompany uninformed use of changa, pharmahuasca, or ayahuasca and its analogues as though they were plain DMT. It's safer to make the hearsay "DMT + coke = bad" rather than the contrary, and then be able to provide the pharmacologically relevant footnotes to a still-living subject.

I strongly discourage cocaine use because, in addition to environmental and political reasons, well mostly...
behavioural effects Neutral




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
observe
#26 Posted : 12/6/2020 1:12:18 AM
I tried cocaine despite knowing I would not enjoy it to simply catalogue its effects. Found its stimulation less intense than my walking around sober dopamine because I excercise compulsively which was much more dissappointing than anticipated it brought me down everytime. Had 0 desire to return but the person whom gave me free coke vaped dmt for the firsttime on cocaine and felt nothing, they had lots of success with me sober/stoned. On a seperate occassion we did a little coke and vaped dmt and we both experienced absolutely nothing. This side effect disturbed me and I will avoid coke and any other non-hallucinogen indeffinitely
 
rOm
Senior Member
#27 Posted : 12/7/2020 1:46:49 PM
thetranceengineer wrote:
No worries. I apologise for being a bit ratty to you, I think I did take it the wrong way a bit and perceived it as a bit of an attack.

I do understand where you're coming from and have definitely taken it on board. Will defo try and be a bit more mindful in the future. What you've said regarding other people, and their own lives id say had definitely skipped my mind a bit but I can understand what you were getting at now.

Obviously, and I think you could probably guess, mental health or previous addictions etc have never been an issue for me or those around me so has never really been something that's been at the front of my mind. And if anything I've ended up learning more from you, and I will now make an effort to understand other peoples situations. I also don't like or support negativity and has been one of the great things of noticed on the nexus, that it is extremely positive.

Id consider myself semi experienced regarding psychedelics, but on the big scale of things, still very inexperienced, especially compared to yourself and some of the other knowledgeable people on here. The information is extremely valuable to me and i do appreciate any feedback that I get.

So suppose this post has been a bit of a learning curve for me. Sorry again for being a bit harsh and will definitely be more mindful in the future. Take it easy.



thanks yes, you got this. and I appreciate you do take the the time, and we try to not persoannly attack here. Communication can be a bit difficult at times as we all tend to interpret with our porjections, or do thingsfor different motives. It's hard to know the real intentions of everyone, but we can discuss all this calmly, as we did.Or even dissipate doubts in private message, if necessary. I also agree with the two last responses.
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
SynKyd
#28 Posted : 12/8/2020 4:25:23 AM
Harmalas can be quite stimulating, to the point changa has kept me awake after a good launch when all I want to do is feel the love and cozy vibes........

I am very OK with coke in the right setting but I wouldn’t recommend it with DMT, just my opinion.
At the center of this existence, it is everything and nothing, all of us and each of us and none of us. My light is now lit, and it cannot be extinguished.
 
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