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How much Phosporic acid to reach Ph 4? Options
 
Vularin
#1 Posted : 12/30/2009 10:42:41 AM
Here's a bit of Trivia! Smile

I need to make 5L of acid water with a Ph of 4,
now i can use 75% or 85% Phosporic Acid.

how much ml of Phosporic acid will i need?

Cheers,
V
 
lorentz5
#2 Posted : 12/30/2009 4:58:34 PM
Hey Vularin, I tried calculating it for you.

For a pH of 4, you need a [H3O+] of 0.0001M (10^-4) since H3PO4+H2O<=>H3O+H2PO4
0.0001M H3PO4 = 0.00196g H3PO4 / 5L (this is what you want)
For 75%, 75g/100ml = 0.00196g/x, x=0.0026ml
So to make a 5L solution of pH 4 using 75% H3PO4, you'd need to pour 0.0026ml of the 75% H3PO4 into 4999.9974ml of H2O.
That way, you'll have 0.00196g (like 2mg) of H3PO4 per 5 L and this will give you a pH of 4.
Sounds highly impractical unless you have a mg scale. Someone should check my chem.

P.S. Don't forget: never add water to acid. Do it the other way around.

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psilyguy
#3 Posted : 12/30/2009 6:27:11 PM
Do yourself a favor and get a digital ph tester, or at the very least some test strips. It's not going to be much...a few drops.
 
Vularin
#4 Posted : 12/30/2009 7:45:15 PM
Cool! thx! thats some crazy math skills! Smile

So whats the pH sweet spot? cause i hear some people have bad experience with pH 2 (less yield).
Am i right to presume the sweet spot is between pH 4-3?

lorentz5 wrote:
Hey Vularin, I tried calculating it for you.

For a pH of 4, you need a [H3O+] of 0.0001M (10^-4) since H3PO4+H2O<=>H3O+H2PO4
0.0001M H3PO4 = 0.00196g H3PO4 / 5L (this is what you want)
For 75%, 75g/100ml = 0.00196g/x, x=0.0026ml
So to make a 5L solution of pH 4 using 75% H3PO4, you'd need to pour 0.0026ml of the 75% H3PO4 into 4999.9974ml of H2O.
That way, you'll have 0.00196g (like 2mg) of H3PO4 per 5 L and this will give you a pH of 4.
Sounds highly impractical unless you have a mg scale. Someone should check my chem.

P.S. Don't forget: never add water to acid. Do it the other way around.


 
 
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