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kingn3eo
#1 Posted : 11/21/2018 4:22:16 PM
Hello!
I've been researching changa for a couple months now, and I just put together a small procedure to work from. I'm hoping to get some feedback, tips or tweaks from any and all who see my postBig grin

Procedure:

1. Dissolve 750mg spice in 20ml ethanol
2. Dissolve 3.5g Harmala extract
3. Pour spice mixture over 1g herb blend (.5g passion flower: .5g mugwort)
4. Soak herb for around 1 hour
5. Allow to dry completely on evap dish

Please don't be shy! Thank you all!
 
Sakkadelic
#2 Posted : 11/21/2018 5:29:49 PM
Hello!

I would say that 20ml ethanol is too much, you only need enough to dissolve the dmt and using a hot water bath, the harmalas aren't that soluble in ethanol so they won't fully dissolve but it's fine it'll still work.. so don't add too much ethanol trying to dissolve them, it will only maken the evaporation longer

Also the harmalas quantity you want to use is too much.. you only need to smoke 10-20 mg of harmalas to get their effect.. you can use 500mg if you want it heavy on harmalas.. 200-300mg would be good too.

Good luck
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kingn3eo
#3 Posted : 11/24/2018 11:37:18 PM
Sakkadelic wrote:
Hello!

I would say that 20ml ethanol is too much, you only need enough to dissolve the dmt and using a hot water bath, the harmalas aren't that soluble in ethanol so they won't fully dissolve but it's fine it'll still work.. so don't add too much ethanol trying to dissolve them, it will only maken the evaporation longer

Also the harmalas quantity you want to use is too much.. you only need to smoke 10-20 mg of harmalas to get their effect.. you can use 500mg if you want it heavy on harmalas.. 200-300mg would be good too.

Good luck

Thanks so much! I'll definitely use less ethanol and start with a smaller dose of Harmala too, thanks for the feedback!
 
FranLover
#4 Posted : 11/25/2018 12:34:03 AM
My friend I will tell you what I do, which works amazingly and beautifuly Love

500mg DMT
500mg herb
50mg Harmine (or whatever powerful harmala alkaloid you have)

One suspects that the perfect ratio of harmine to add the changa is 10%
For example, if one is going for 300mg DMT/300mg herb, then one should add 30mg harmine.

If you overdo the harmine, you will be sooo doped out when you come out of your travel. And even then you might not get the full DMT experience if you have too much harmine.

And also, one does not even meassure the ehtanol. One just grabs a bottle of Everclear and puts a little bit in a shot glass. It just has to be enough to contain all the DMT, HERBS, and HARMINE. Then you swirl it with a little spooon. Mix all that up.
Now put the shot glass next to a powerful fan. In 3 hours it will be dry. You then pass it to a bigger surface, something like a small glass bowl, and fan it for as long as you can. (6 more hours infront of a fan at level 3 power will completley dry it, in my oppinion. However, I dry it all day, until I will smoke it, and only stop drying it when it becomes just silly to keep on fanning (like after 3 days non stop fanning Laughing )

Fanning is important because if not changa will taste like alocohl...very bad for launching.
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kingn3eo
#5 Posted : 12/5/2018 2:19:10 AM
FranLover wrote:
My friend I will tell you what I do, which works amazingly and beautifuly Love

500mg DMT
500mg herb
50mg Harmine (or whatever powerful harmala alkaloid you have)

One suspects that the perfect ratio of harmine to add the changa is 10%
For example, if one is going for 300mg DMT/300mg herb, then one should add 30mg harmine.

If you overdo the harmine, you will be sooo doped out when you come out of your travel. And even then you might not get the full DMT experience if you have too much harmine.

And also, one does not even meassure the ehtanol. One just grabs a bottle of Everclear and puts a little bit in a shot glass. It just has to be enough to contain all the DMT, HERBS, and HARMINE. Then you swirl it with a little spooon. Mix all that up.
Now put the shot glass next to a powerful fan. In 3 hours it will be dry. You then pass it to a bigger surface, something like a small glass bowl, and fan it for as long as you can. (6 more hours infront of a fan at level 3 power will completley dry it, in my oppinion. However, I dry it all day, until I will smoke it, and only stop drying it when it becomes just silly to keep on fanning (like after 3 days non stop fanning Laughing )

Fanning is important because if not changa will taste like alocohl...very bad for launching.

This is definitely going to be a fun project, thank you for the input and the info!
I'll probably use your reply as a reference for a lot of close friends Big grin thank you!
 
DreadedShaman
#6 Posted : 7/26/2019 9:03:21 PM
Changa is great! I've liked the experience much more than just freebase overall.

Like others have said, too much harmala in that.. I found it difficult to find any recipe that specified how much of the content should be harmala when making my first batch, and I ended up going with a 1:1 ratio, and I can tell the experience is influenced by the harmalas fairly heavily,

But I kinda like it that way

 
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#7 Posted : 7/26/2019 9:42:44 PM
Have used the same recipe for about a decade:

# 1g DMT
# 300mg harmala freebase (typically tan caapi harmalas are used, but have also used rue alks)
# 500mg mullein leaf
# 500mg ground caapi leaf

Powerful, with very little to no alteration from the harmalas, aside from lengthening the experience overall and lengthening the initial smoking window to get as deep is as needed. A strong potentiation to the DMT experience.
 
WarpedDimension
#8 Posted : 7/26/2019 11:40:30 PM
I like to add a bit of peppermint leaf in any changa blend I make, I enjoy both the smell and the slight cooling sensation it provides. Just a pinch is all you need.

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#9 Posted : 7/27/2019 2:14:32 PM
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