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Can you abort a breakthrough even if you smoke enough? Options
 
TrippyBrob
#1 Posted : 7/23/2019 9:24:33 PM
Hello everyone and thank you for allowing me to participate in this wonderful and resourceful forum.

The other day i finally got a GVG, and wow I can't believe how much of a difference it makes over the traditional one. This is now fool proof for me, and I am finally ready for a breakthrough... So I thought. I loaded a nice amount in, probably 30mg+. I got a huge first hit, couldn't even manage a bit longer than like 3 seconds for the second one because I was already tripping so strong. Unfortunately was not ready, and I was so shocked by the way I felt that I opened my eyes after a few seconds, and held them open the whole time until I came down. I was too scared. I thought I was ready to experience a breakthrough, I feel I am very open minded and that I am not afraid of death, but as reality started to dissolve around me, I felt differently.

I guess my question is this. Will you break through no matter what on a high enough dose? I'm wondering if I just didn't get all the vapor, and i wasn't going to break through anyways. Or is it that I could have definitely broken through on that hit, but I aborted it?

Maybe I should work on myself a little more and be in a better setting before attempting again, but still I'm just trying to figure out if I smoked enough and aborted, or didn't smoke enough. Thanks guys and have a blessed day
 
FranLover
#2 Posted : 7/23/2019 11:46:09 PM
Yes and no. If you fight it very hard compassion will find you; the compassion of your own body, of your own mind, or of hyperspace. But you cant always count on someone to rescue you, not even your own body (After all it is one who takes the decision to toke and end homeostasis in the brain and body.) So I would be careful of going in more times with the possibility of regretting it. You cant regret it. You just have to smile. Smile and feel the happiness of a smile. Dont think if you are terrified. Theres nothing to think about. You are beyond analysis, beyond assistance. You just need to smile.
Todo lo que quiero es que me recuerdes siempre así...amándote. Mantay kuna kayadidididi~~Ayahuasca shamudididi. Silence ○ Shiva ◇ eternal Purusha.
What we have done is establish the rule of authority in silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe. In silence is the script of Natural Law, eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. The Joy of Giving See the job. Do the job. Stay out of the misery.
May this world be established with a sense of well-being and happiness. May all beings in all worlds be blessed with peace, contentment, and freedom.
This mass of stress visible in the here & now has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality.
 
WarpedDimension
#3 Posted : 7/24/2019 12:06:16 AM
I wouldn't worry about the term breakthrough my friend. Sounds like you got more than you bargained for already so concentrate on that. Smaller dose experiences is like dipping toes in the water. Keep dipping them toes, nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

My feeling about breakthrough is this. I have seen people who stated they are ready for a breakthrough. I load up enough and they either don't hold it in, blowing it out right away, they refuse another hit or flat out decide not to do anymore after they begin feeling the effects of the DMT. These people could have broken through at any point. It was their choice not to, which is fine and good, no problem.

If you want to breakthrough, you will. You will ingest enough to propel yourself into hyperspace. The mind comes in at the last second and plays all sorts of games to survive. The mind is wrong. There is no danger. There is nothing to fear but fear itself. It can be shocking and it can definitely be scary sometimes. Know this and prepare for these feelings, accept that it is all part of the experience.

A strong breakthrough, you will forget you have eyes to open. I don't feel you had a breakthrough dose. It was close perhaps. Don't fret about it. Keep dipping your toes and go in deeper and deeper as you feel comfortable. In the end, you are entering deep waters and need to learn to swim. I don't think learning to swim by being thrown into deep water is a good plan. I feel how you are approaching DMT is very healthy. Take your time!!

Half of the experience of DMT is before and after the experience. It is all a journey! Enjoy that and as FranLover stated, "You just need to smile!" Great advice there for sure! Don't take it all too seriously. Try to laugh and enjoy it!
“Silence is a source of Great Strength.” ~Lao Tzu
 
Northerner
#4 Posted : 7/24/2019 1:36:28 AM
And close your eyes, just do it.

It's far less scary watching an amazing hypercolour dream than watching consensual reality being torn apart.
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
 
 
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