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#1 Posted : 6/5/2009 3:23:18 PM

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Hello all,

Yesterday after much debate I decided to ban 'Coatl from the DMT-Nexus for the following reasons:
* Asking how to create opium from poppy seeds
* Proposing to smuggle plants into Australia
* Disputable knowledge
* Many postings with no real meaning (one-liners with no arguments)
* Bending the rules in her favour
* Not listening to advice and warnings
* Aggressive postings and PM's
* Name calling
* And the list goes on...

Some of these reasons are serious threads to the existence of the DMT-Nexus!

I’ve given her numerous warnings, temporary suspensions, advice, stricter rules and none did work. So after many second chances without improvement the only option I saw left was to ban her.


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#2 Posted : 6/5/2009 3:53:23 PM

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Thank you so much Traveler

For bring clarity to the situation i am very grateful to you. Very happy


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Finaly, some clarification on this matter, thank you

hope everyone can over this issue now
 
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I deleted another thread about 'Coatl but let me post the reactions here:


Xstacy #1 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 11:27:31 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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I was curious as to why she was suspended and looked at the last 10 posts and I didnt see anything really offensive. The last post was arguing about cacti and that was all I saw. Unless the posts were deleted and I am missing something, but I am curious as to what happened.
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soulfood #2 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 11:39:38 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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Yeah I figured it to be a little harsh. She seems quite passionate about cactus so I can understand a heated arguement about it, but there does come a time when you should stop banging your head against a brick wall. IMO there are others who are just as bad or on occasion worse.

I guess it just goes to show what a pleasant forum this is when moral standards are so high that something like this sticks out like a sore thumb.

I do hope this is not a permanent suspension though, as she definately brought something different to the table. Not like info leeches like myself
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kemist #3 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 11:52:58 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote


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I missed her

ILPT was just about to sent some cacti pics. for identification but I wouldn`t bother to post them as she is not here and nobody else will answer my question.

She is just a little baby so I never would feel offended with her posts, neither did I find any dangerous one.
they are idiots like `deadlizard` and `hysterix`whose are dangerous but why coatl ?
baby with many needs like many others
I think some moderators should take it easy...
let`s make a poll

As a kemist I never met him (ILPT) in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom trough my mind only. Please don`t prosecute him for his possible illegal activities. I think he`s total lunatic, but harmless !!!

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Xstacy #4 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 12:04:37 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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/shrug I argue because if believe in something, and if that is what Coatl is doing, then well whats the problem? As long as its fact I have no problem and recently she was attempting to be civil, which is all one can ask no? I had no problems with Coatl.
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VisualDistortion #5 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 12:27:12 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote


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MODS ON PARADE!

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Xstacy #6 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 12:36:56 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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lol nice pic, but not what I am looking for.
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kemist #7 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 12:41:29 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote


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VisualDistortion wrote:
MODS ON PARADE!



ROFL!!!


Seriously I don`t have problem with anybody here.

My ego wass shattered few years ago
and soon after I realised that we all are the same and each of us is unique in his/her own way.

We are suppose to love each other and not ours egos.

Saddest thing ever is that
I`m not even 30 and I know this unlike many other older people.

Will people in this Fucking word walk one day all in peace and Constructive way ????

How many times one need to die and resurrect to realize what`s this life about???

people please..... even parrot scratching his head know and wondering how big human egoism could be ..

time to grab my long lost vomiting bucket
As a kemist I never met him (ILPT) in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom trough my mind only. Please don`t prosecute him for his possible illegal activities. I think he`s total lunatic, but harmless !!!

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ohayoco #8 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 14:43:54 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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How many threads like this are you going to start?! Please delete it!

Coatl enjoyed rubbing people up the wrong way and deliberately causing arguments. We used to be 'friends' but I got fed up with seeing her delight in annoying others. Now I consider her more like a spoilt little sister who needs to mature- I like her, but she can be a pain in the ass. She would troll by ignoring people's posts in a debate and just reciting her own personal dogma again and again. She would use racist and homophobic insults, and on another forum called a famous magic mushroom author a paedophile without evidence. I've seen her kill threads again and again for 6 months. "When she was good she was very very good, but when she was bad she was awful", as the saying goes. She needs some time away to work with the plants instead of just talking about them (because yes she has admitted that she rarely actually works with them). Or to see a psychologist, because she has real issues that will only obstruct her throughout her life if she doesn't deal with them now.
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ohayoco wrote:
How many threads like this are you going to start?! Please delete it!

Coatl enjoyed rubbing people up the wrong way and deliberately causing arguments. We used to be 'friends' but I got fed up with seeing her delight in annoying others. Now I consider her more like a spoilt little sister who needs to mature- I like her, but she can be a pain in the ass. She would troll by ignoring people's posts in a debate and just reciting her own personal dogma again and again. She would use racist and homophobic insults, and on another forum called a famous magic mushroom author a paedophile without evidence. I've seen her kill threads again and again for 6 months. "When she was good she was very very good, but when she was bad she was awful", as the saying goes. She needs some time away to work with the plants instead of just talking about them (because yes she has admitted that she rarely actually works with them). Or to see a psychologist, because she has real issues that will only obstruct her throughout her life if she doesn't deal with them now.



Thank you Ohayoco for shedding light on the situation i really appreciate your clarity


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ohayoco #10 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 14:59:29 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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I forgot to mention how all her knowledge is recited from others, much of it picked up from forums. Whiterasta has corrected her before, but as she gets so defensive and can never admit she's wrong, it's said she scares real experts away because they can't be bothered with her and I can beleive that. I'm told the same happened on Edot.
She says shes 19 here. On Edot she says she's 40! She says there are 5 Teo's across the country working together. Stuff like this makes people not trust her. She has been banned from almost every entheo site for a reason.
She gives the impression that she's speaking from personal experience, but in reality she admits to only tripping twice a year, and two years ago she hadn't even tried aya so after probably only one go (4 in the unlikely event that she'd abstained from cactus etc for the last 2 years) she's in no place to be giving advice on her personal experiences with aya. Neither with cactus.
She's too adamant in her advice, she advises like what she says is the word of god. And some of what she says has been wrong, and no doubt some is misinformation passed on by others. So she's dangerous.
I am in no doubt, for example, that she has never done Iboga. Yet I have seen her advise others to do so, with no mention of the fact that it can be fatal!
Sorry Coatl, but if you make yourself out to be an expert, therefore giving dangerous advice, I am ethically compelled to call you out on your ego-game. I hope this will end now, and the next time we meet you'll be a changed person. Nobody's perfect, we all need to grow.
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kemist #11 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 15:05:58 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote


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ohayoco wrote:
I forgot to mention how all her knowledge is recited from others, much of it picked up from forums. Whiterasta has corrected her before, but as she gets so defensive and can never admit she's wrong, it's said she scares real experts away because they can't be bothered with her and I can beleive that. I'm told the same happened on Edot.
She gives the impression that she's speaking from personal experience, but in reality she admits to only tripping twice a year, and two years ago she hadn't even tried aya so she's in no place to be giving advice on aya.
She's too adamant in her advice, she advises like what she says is the word of god. And some of what she says has been wrong, and no doubt some is misinformation passed on by others. So she's dangerous.
I am in no doubt, for example, that she has never done Iboga. Yet I have seen her advise others to do so, with no mention of the fact that it can be fatal!
Sorry Coatl, but if you make yourself out to be an expert, therefore giving dangerous advice, I am ethically compelled to call you out on your ego-game. I hope this will end now, and the next time we meet you'll be a changed person. Nobody's perfect, we all need to grow.


Very interesting , didn`t know that.


Thanx for this threads , they are bringing more light into this problem
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ohayoco #12 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 15:07:34 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote

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I added a bit more while you were quoting me. I hate having to say these things but it's necessary. If I get banned for it, I don't care. It's more important that people are getting safe advice. That's my biggest problem with her- she values her ego more than other people's health.
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kemist #13 Posted : vrijdag 5 juni 2009 15:12:42 Attach Edit Move Delete Quote


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ohayoco wrote:
I added a bit more while you were quoting me. I hate having to say these things but it's necessary. If I get banned for it, I don't care. It's more important that people are getting safe advice. That's my biggest problem with her- she values her ego more than other people's health.

I don`t think she is alone with that bigga EGO , it`s all sad Why I always love wrong people??? it`s some sort of punishment in this life and this body ????
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Well don't get upset, you can find her on Edot under the pseudonym 'Kie Ti Kohl'. She's usually involved in an argument in the Flamepit. Edot is pretty much a free-speech forum, where she's free to use racist and homophobic hate words etc, so I doubt she'll get banned there.
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ohayoco wrote:
Well don't get upset, you can find her on Edot under the pseudonym 'Kie Ti Kohl'. She's usually involved in an argument in the Flamepit. Edot is pretty much a free-speech forum, where she's free to use racist and homophobic hate words etc, so I doubt she'll get banned there.

Yeah I`ve seen something hmmmm.....
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guys CUT IT OUT

she was banned for many reasons. just cut it out
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guys CUT IT OUT

she was banned for many reasons. just cut it out
Its a calm discussion no need for all that. If there is a post about someone being banned then we should be able to discuss it.

 
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I was reading one of the links to one of the Edot threads where 'C was being brutally flamed for doing what she/he does, but one of the things said did stick in my head.
Someone high up on the Edot flagpole posted that he had checked a few IP addresses & 'Coatl had the same IP address as another member, "MJShroomer", who she has had a huge number of heated arguments with, on multiple forums.
So she was arguing, with herself. I'm guessing this is so others can join in & make another thread...like lead.
Edit:This is more than likely BS, but I thought it should at least be mentioned.

So I have to take anymore 'Coatl posts, pro or con, as bunk. And I'm finished reading or replying to them, unless asked to do so for mod reasons.
I hope this can all die down here real soon & we can all go back to exploring consciousness...instead of right or wrong!


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I have a weak spot for her. She sounds just like i sounded when i was a teenager.
 
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Thanx Traveler I see now,they were serious reason for ban...

Thanks to make it clear.

You are good man. Much blessing
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warrensaged wrote:
I was reading one of the links to one of the Edot threads where 'C was being brutally flamed for doing what she/he does, but one of the things said did stick in my head.
Someone high up on the Edot flagpole posted that he had checked a few IP addresses & 'Coatl had the same IP address as another member, "MJShroomer", who she has had a huge number of arguments with.
So she was arguing, with herself. I'm guessing this is so others can join in & make another thread...lead.

So I have to take anymore 'Coatl posts, pro or con, as bunk. And I'm finished reading or replying to them.
I hope this can all die down here real soon & we can all go back to exploring consciousness...instead of right or wrong!


BTW, I had an incredible Changa breakthrough using the Jungle Spice from Jokerst's FASW tek...Try it, you'll like it!!!


WSWink


HELL yea dude...that is awesome to hear!!! SWIM is in the process of drying some spice from chaliponga...hes reallllly excited to try it out
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polytrip wrote:
I have a weak spot for her. She sounds just like i sounded when i was a teenager.

Hahahaha I though the same. Coatl = mini me, lol


She need damn strong trip to confront her ego .....
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
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She need damn strong trip to confront her ego .....


She would probably just try to argue with it.Laughing


Sorry, I had to...Wink

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warrensaged wrote:
Someone high up on the Edot flagpole posted that he had checked a few IP addresses & 'Coatl had the same IP address as another member, "MJShroomer", who she has had a huge number of heated arguments with, on multiple forums.
So she was arguing, with herself.

Without having seen the evidence or heard it from the mods themselves, I would treat this as a prank or rumour.

Traveler, I can tell you find it really hard to ban people. You were hoping that Coatl could benefit from exposure to the maturity and compassion of the Nexus, many of us were. Unfortunately she couldn't help but take advantage of your kindness. Honestly from what little contact I've had with Traveler I can honestly say that he is a sterling guy with a heart of gold, and he would never ban anyone unless he felt he absolutely had to. Thanks for all your hard work Traveler, you are appreciated.
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warrensaged wrote:
I was reading one of the links to one of the Edot threads where 'C was being brutally flamed for doing what she/he does, but one of the things said did stick in my head.
Someone high up on the Edot flagpole posted that he had checked a few IP addresses & 'Coatl had the same IP address as another member, "MJShroomer", who she has had a huge number of heated arguments with, on multiple forums.
So she was arguing, with herself. I'm guessing this is so others can join in & make another thread...like lead.

So I have to take anymore 'Coatl posts, pro or con, as bunk. And I'm finished reading or replying to them, unless asked to do so for mod reasons.
I hope this can all die down here real soon & we can all go back to exploring consciousness...instead of right or wrong!


BTW, I had an incredible Changa breakthrough using the Jungle Spice from Jokerst's FASW tek...Try it, you'll like it!!!


WSWink


Ever think that maybe both these posters could use proxies? Both go through the same private proxy?
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VisualDistortion wrote:

Ever think that maybe both these posters could use proxies? Both go through the same private proxy?


Quote:
Without having seen the evidence or heard it from the mods themselves, I would treat this as a prank or rumour.


I agree with both of you, that's why said I would consider any of it, good or bad, as unreliable.
Not that it is necessarily true. In fact, I would guess it is BS, just thought it should be at least known.

I didn't want it to come over like that.

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Good riddance to bad rubbish. The only reason Coatl/Teo was here was because he has been banned from about every other board there is. He took advantage of the good nature of the folk here.
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Coatl may have been overly opinionated and brash, but this person i know as a personal friend. sHe has an ego that believes it dosent exist, dont we all? Perhaps its due to youthful inexperience, or arrogance, either way the postings of coatl needed to be limited, not entirely ceased, though given the opportunity for improvement id say its mores so his own actions that lead him to be banned.
I would be seriously more lost without my friend, ethnobotanist, and fellow spiritual psychonaut; Coatl.
If anyone appreciates my company or thoughts, that can be attributed to the catalyst like experiences coatl has provided for me.
though sHe needs to learn not to be so proud, for it is a sin wronging everyone.

peace and light

perhaps in some distant time, if it pleases you, allow Coatl to interject sporadically.
there is true wisdom with this kid
 
HappyCamper
#19 Posted : 6/5/2009 10:24:14 PM

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About the only thing that I found annoying, is her posting information in like three or four consecutive posts instead of one. Although she does this in her PMs too so I don't think it's intentional.
 
G7
#20 Posted : 6/6/2009 1:26:30 AM

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Folks, he has admitted to being a dude. A 40 year old guy, i dont know. More likely a 20 something attention seeker. Only a guy would act like such an ass to people whi were trying to help him (like Ohayoco @ EDOT).

I decided to call him SHIM anytime he posted over there. It got him so rowled up!


-G7
-"I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement."
-"Your love for each other should exceed your need for each other"
-"Nostalgia isn't what it used to be"
-"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root"
-"We figured out a long time ago that it's much easier to control people when we're all watching the same T.V. shows, listening to the same radio stations, going to the same movies, looking at the same billboards, eating the same food, and speaking the same language."

Everything I post is butkus.
 
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