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#1 Posted : 4/1/2011 5:19:30 PM

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#2 Posted : 4/1/2011 5:20:21 PM

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Sweet, congrats!

I'm still trying to acquire one myself...
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#3 Posted : 4/1/2011 7:21:39 PM

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Nice! Here's hoping that it'll grow into a huge beast of a mother and give you many cuttings and leaves!
 
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#4 Posted : 4/20/2011 8:48:33 AM

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Coming along beautifully now Very happy.
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#5 Posted : 4/21/2011 7:40:37 PM

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How's it going?

Is this your first SD? I started one several months ago and must say its been the most difficult learning experience I've had with cultivation. The biggest tip I can give is use a humidity tent. This has saved many a salvia. I have a grow log linked below which may give you some much needed info. I could tell from your photo you had some browning leaves already. This is to some extent normal. However it can get worse if the environment is not what she likes. Anyway browse the grow log which is from the perspective a newb. Other than that read grow logs from experienced folks and read up as much as you can.

Growing salvia can be a rewarding endeavor as well as a pain in the ass.

http://forum.salviadivin...topic.php?f=12&t=541
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#6 Posted : 4/21/2011 9:35:29 PM

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she is coming along beautifully. I was really fearing for her health a bit. Leaves fell off, but new ones came, and the browning parts of the leaves aren't getting worse. I give her water and sun and she grows Smile
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#7 Posted : 4/21/2011 11:03:42 PM

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Right on! Crap, well if your doing well no worries. Mine came from a chap a mere 100 miles away so I figured it would be well acclimated but alas from green house to my house made a big difference.

Glad it's doing well. Post a pic from time to time!
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#8 Posted : 4/23/2011 8:35:24 PM

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You can't really tell, all that's happened is that the big leaves in the first photo fell off, and new leaves smaller than the other, but far healthier have sprouted. I'm looking at her as I type this and am so grateful that I can care for her.

Does anyone know how to induce flowering? I've read that it's a short day plant and only flowers if it gets a 12 at most and you ensure it gets no light pollution after that set time which makes sense.

I'm thinking maybe with some of my cuttings I'll have some experiments going with various light treatments to see if I can get it to flower.
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#9 Posted : 4/23/2011 10:40:16 PM

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The bigger leaves that came when you got it are acclimatized to where it came from. A few of the big ones on mine are still there but I'm slowly pruning them as new leaves grow larger. All the new ones should thrive in your environment given all the variables are right.

About flowering. I don't have anything helpful to add but the lack of talk I see about it suggests to me it's not all that common. Of course don't take my word fo it. Although since you'd need flowering to produce seed and you don't run into seed almost ever that would suggest they don't flower often. And you probably know they almost never survive from seed if they do germinate. But who knows, I haven't researched much into this area of salvia cultivation.
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#10 Posted : 4/23/2011 10:55:57 PM

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Hmmm.. I really can't say anything for sure, but the 12 hour flowering cycle reminds me of cannabis.

I'm not sure how similar they are when it comes to flowering them, but I know that if it is like cannabis in some regards, you might not want to flower your original, but maybe a cutting.

With cannabis, after it's finished it's flowering process, it's natural action is to die. So hopefully that isn't the same case with the salvia. It's possible to re-veg cannabis but it's a very long, slow process and doesn't seem like it's very easy on the plant.

The best way is to keep a mother plant in 24 hour green cycles and put the cuttings into the 12/12 flowering cycle. That way you can keep your genetics for future crops.

Something else to consider is if you implement the 12 hour light cycle, I know with cannabis, that schedule has to be pretty strict with no interruptions to the dark cycle. Photo-shock can cause all types of weird issues.

So like I said, I really don't know if these issues are the same for sally and cannabis but if they are, you'd definitely want to be aware of it.
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#11 Posted : 4/24/2011 5:28:13 AM

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Thanks for the advice. Light pollution will fuck up flowering (short day plants are finicky sons of bitches)
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#12 Posted : 4/24/2011 5:35:38 AM

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With cannabis plants I would just cover the plant(s) up at night. When they are small, boxes work great (just duct-tape the edges where light can get in). Once they got big though, I would put them on a pallet lift and bring them into my garage.

And if you have grow lights, its as easy as turning the light off and closing the door.

And unless salvia is ridiculously sensitive to the most minuscule amounts of light, I don't see how it could be that hard to make them flower.

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#13 Posted : 4/24/2011 1:45:56 PM

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According to The Salvia Divimorum Grower's Guide, Salvia divinorum will flower if a photoperiod of 10 hours or less out of 24 is maintained (any light in the dark period will cause immediate cessation of flowering). This can be taken advantage of for maintaining vegetative growth by ensuring your plants receive 12 or more hours of light per day, up to a maximum of 18 hours in 24. Salvia divinorum is happy when grown under natural or fluorescent lights. Although expensive lighting equipment can be purchased for indoor growing, this is not necessary for the novice or average grower. If growing in natural light, do not grow in direct hot sunlight. Even if you have acclimatised your plants to accept hot and dry conditions, direct hot sunlight will cause stunted, warped leaf growth. If growing under fluorecsent light, hang lights about 30cm above the plants. Light can be saved and reused by placing reflective objects around the plants to reflect the light back, such as polystyrene or alluminium foil. Reflectors can also be placed above the lights to reflect back otherwise wasted light, please bear in mind any potential dangers from covering the top of your lights.

http://www.plot55.com/growing/s.divinorum.html
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#14 Posted : 4/25/2011 10:06:27 AM

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heh. that plant in the link is a mutant iirc, those short circular leaves....


I was an idiot and kncoked my plant over. I'm sweating bullet because it snapped in half. The top part is in water, and the bottom is just chillin like normal in the pot. I really hope this they don't die Sad.
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#15 Posted : 4/25/2011 2:39:01 PM

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Ack!

Talk about having a panic attack. I'd freak out. Good luck bro!
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#16 Posted : 4/25/2011 9:10:29 PM

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hey hey nice plant. real nice. wishing you best of luck
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#17 Posted : 4/26/2011 11:39:34 PM

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So it looks like there is an apical meristem forming on the plant, and it seems to have grown about a quarter inch Very happy .
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