hi ppl.

for a few weeks swim has been browsing the dmt-nexus and has produced some fairly clean crystals.swim smoked yesterday and today 1 dose wich both produced the candyland visuals. swim was wondering how soon after administating a good dose one can take another one for a new trip. swim doesn't want to overdo things...

greets,

Radboud

Depending on what you read it seems to be between 1 and 4 hours to get back to baseline tolerance for smoked freebase, with some people saying no more than once a day. A friend of mine says any more than once in a day and it's not the same as the first time, just "hello from a distance". Personally I have yet to test the interval timing myself so the above could of course be a load of bollocks. [between 1 and 4 hours seems to be the general consensus though]

I say smoke as much or as little as you like.

I only do it about once every week or 2... but will go for a couple of months without and I enjoy it much better this way.

But if you do want to smoke it a lot then do some personal study to check your own tolerence on that one. We're all different, however I can have breakthrough experiences 1 hour after the other. Seems to be a waste though as to me it's all about thinking afterwards rather than voyaging

i see.

the intensity of the trip makes that swim doesn't want to take another hit too shortly after. his brain needs to process the experience before he wants to move on.
so: no worries, take as much as you want but too frequent won't be as satisfying as once in a while.

thanks to both of you for the info!!

radboud

Just did a little experiment in tolerance buildup:

Smoked a small pipe of changa, experienced mild effects, repeated the dosage 20mins later and felt only a faint tingle in comparison.

Not the most detailed or scientific, but interesting nonetheless.

Hello,

SWIM has been doing some minor experiments along these lines.

It appears that if one's lungs/mind can take repeated experiences (in particular sub-breakthrough), it can be smoked very frequently without tolerance effects. In fact, for a small dose, SWIM will sometimes consume another smaller dose within 3-5 minutes, and find herself much closer to hyperspace. This is a cumulative effect. If she does it 3-4 times, she will near-breakthrough on as little as 15-20 mg.

For the intense, breakthrough experiences, SWIM does not seem to be able to achieve (she hasn't tried very hard) more than two hyperspace visits per 24 hour period. If she has an intense experience where it feels that something remains to be done/communicated, she will return within 15-20 mins. But, if it was intense and "completed" she is done for the night and days afterwards. . .

Peace & Love,
Pandora

About tolerance, 1 hour seems to be enough for SWIM to make the next launch effective.. In fact, he generally does this, smoke a small 15mg dose just to 'get the feeling' again, and then an hour after a full 50-60mg dose.

But finding the ideal smoking frequency is obviously more than just tolerance itself.. Even if SWIM could smoke with effect every hour, he wouldnt.. In fact its been many months, maybe a year since last time. He doesnt even remember... But he wants to use soon, and its possible that he makes a more frequent experimentation again at some point. So at other times it might be a few months of weekly or more frequency.... So what I mean is that the ideal frequency depends on all sorts of factors, individual characteristics, context, etc..

Just listen to your own feelings/intuition about it, and find your own right frequency

I agree with what's been said here. I personally haven't had the desire to experiment until the moment is just right (once every week or 2) but it seems that freebase DMT has a very short tolerance (1-4 hours). I have read and experienced that if you don't breakthrough and try to add more a few minutes later you most likely still won't breakthrough, but may lengthen and slightly enhance the experience.

some people breakthrough by smoking two times...some people don't really notice the second. the brain loves dmt and actively transports it through the blood-brain barrier, much like it does with glucose. oh but before i get ahead of myself....the introduction of dmt to the brain for the first time! at roughtly 49 days after conception the mother's pineal gland releases dmt to the infant. so dmt is a naturally occuring substance in the human brain, kind of like an alternate substance to serotonin. so ok, dmt is like fuel for the brain. it helps promote your learning capabilities while putting a little ziiiing! in doing so. a problem arises when you fail to stimulate your brain. kind of like you muscles, but in the form of alzheimer's....don't use it you lose it. might i add one more point, and it shouldn't be looked at with a negative perspective but rather a more open-minded approach. in schizophrenics....dmt is bountiful, as a matter of fact the pineal gland is releasing large amounts of dmt. thus creating a schizonphrenic person. interesting to think about really. can dmt be part of human evolution? what is this universe we're in? are our senses being manipulated? best of luck!

Reference please?

Yeah, not to nitpick but ...



This is only a theory, and you talk as if its an accepted truth.. Be careful, you can mislead people that dont know




Yes its a natural substance occuring in the brain and other parts of the body, but its functions are unknown. There may be even several functions. Saying its alternate substance to serotonin doesnt make much sense. The connection DMT has with serotonine is that it attaches to some serotoninergic receptors, specifically subtype 2a. It stops there though, there are many many more differences between both also



This theory has not been shown to be true by replicated experiments, and it has been generally discredited.

There are several differences in the brain/metabolism of schizophrenics, yes, and in some cases it may be that dmt level is different.. But, at many other also schizophrenic cases this is not true, so it cannot be 'The Cause', if there even is a single one. There is still plenty of discussion on what causes schizophrenia and dmt levels is one of the least considered answers nowadays in the psychiatric/psychological field of research. It is very likely that there are several very distinct problems that are all labeled under this quite generalizing abstract definition of schizophrenia, and also there may be several factors, not just one cause, which linked in a systemic way create the symptoms of this (these) disease (s)

and now i see that we agree on the loose definition of schizo.
i will go through my books and post back with my citations. probably should've been more prepared my bad on that. lookin forward to it though!

SWIM found that for himself, tolerance has only to do with 'breaking through". SWIM packs a large bowl of changa, takes 3 hits and breaks through. Awhile later, when SWIM can actually locate the pipe and lighter, and is capable of aiming one at the other, he takes 2 or 3 more hits. He never has another breakthrough this way, but continues to enjoy the beautiful and intricate CEV's. All this goes well with headphones playing electronic (instrumental) music. A bowl of changa with the equivalent of 200 mg. will last SWIM over an hour. SWIM has never re-packed a 2nd bowl.

As far as frequency, SWIM is just like everyone else : Sometimes every night, sometimes not for weeks or months. Set and setting ...

A FOAF will often get a taste before jumping in completely as the breakthrough experiences aren't usually what he desired. He claims to be able to reach the body load and state of mind he wants each hour and sometimes more often, which sounds perfectly acceptable by what I have read.

SWIM found that when he first began extracting the spice, he was smoking nightly, sometimes multiple times a night, for about the first week. Then he took a break, resumed extracting and sat on his work for a while. Then he went on another spice bender. While neither period of use was overwhelming, he felt the desire to jump back into hyperspace was diminished. Now he probably smokes it several times a month at the most. However, he would in no way, shape, or form be surprised if something gripped him and caused him to desire to go back with that initial frequency. To echo the sentiments of many people on here, there's no hard and fast rule for smoking. As with all psychedelics, it boils down to set and setting; if you feel the time is right to smoke, then it probably is.

In a Q&A interview published in the September, 1994, issue of California Monthly, Mullis said, "Back in the 1960s and early '70s I took plenty of LSD. A lot of people were doing that in Berkeley back then. And I found it to be a mind-opening experience. It was certainly much more important than any courses I ever took."[17] During a symposium held for centenarian Albert Hofmann, "Hofmann revealed that he was told by Nobel-prize-winning chemist Kary Mullis that LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences."[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis

Ive never done LSD, but I feel something good coming from the Spice

i like this...

I find that since I have not been smoking cannabis I have been smoking spice and other tryptamines more often than before..but I am still spending way way more time sober becasue I used to smoke weed like 10 times a day.. When I do smoke spice though it's usually just once in the day and then I go about the rest of my day..I have an alter all set and ready with music and everything so I can laungh whenever I feel the need..

I dunno I just feel I was built for this type of stuff..

The last week I think I have smoked spice alomost every day, except for today becasue I tested out some yopo.. and I drank a light aya brew one day so did not smoke..

I tried smoking with 40-50 minutes break few hits after each other... and didnt OD.. but may depend on the amount you use... i smoked around 30 on first 2 times then like 1 hour break and the third was like 40mg