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Fernape
#21 Posted : 12/22/2009 9:23:40 PM
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I dislike your aura of superiority, as if you know something we don't, and don't have the potential to discover. We are all on the same level here.
I'm not here to make an enemy, but who can call themselves a goddess, particularly someone who makes sure to define themselves by both feminine AND androgynous terms.

Who can claim to be something otherworldly on this forum? We may all say we have a small piece of it, but to claim to be something otherworldly entirely is something beyond my ability to trust.
 

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#22 Posted : 12/22/2009 9:36:14 PM

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Fernape wrote:
I dislike your aura of superiority, as if you know something we don't, and don't have the potential to discover. We are all on the same level here.
I'm not here to make an enemy, but who can call themselves a goddess, particularly someone who makes sure to define themselves by both feminine AND androgynous terms.

Who can claim to be something otherworldly on this forum? We may all say we have a small piece of it, but to claim to be something otherworldly entirely is something beyond my ability to trust.


It's called acting, or role playing. It's artistic. You aren't supposed to actually believe. All is reflection.
I think it's great we have an emissary of the divine.
 
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#23 Posted : 12/22/2009 9:58:04 PM
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Is this a joke? Not to disrespect, but this is almost embarrassing to even read.

So a goddess from another world or dimension is not able to contact us unless we take a hallucinogen, but internet forum discussions are possible? I like to keep an open mind, but the only way may mind would be able to stay open to this idea is if some great secret was told which could be verified, some how, i don't think thats going to happen.

But please, attempt it, i'm atleast interested in your response, but not if it isn't going to contain any kind of information. We can make theories all day a possibility all day, but to gain some belief something amazing would have to happen. Why the role playing?


Artistic i can undetstand.

But how wild would it be if something like this could happen!
They say that shit floats, but mine sinks....why?? I guess i'm just into some heavy shit!
 
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#24 Posted : 12/22/2009 10:14:49 PM



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How did she/it come to be? Did you evolve in this universe?


SheeiitLaughing, if your channel-er gets boozed up does she/it get intoxicated as well?



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
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#25 Posted : 12/22/2009 10:41:27 PM

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Cheeto wrote:
But how wild would it be if something like this could happen!


Aye, wild indeed! Why not assume it is happening, rather than it not happening? Ask a question, see what kind of answer you get and then use your discernment as to whether it resonates with you. Or don't ask and never know.
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
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#26 Posted : 12/22/2009 10:46:20 PM

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Fernape wrote:
I dislike your aura of superiority, as if you know something we don't, and don't have the potential to discover. We are all on the same level here.
I'm not here to make an enemy, but who can call themselves a goddess, particularly someone who makes sure to define themselves by both feminine AND androgynous terms.

Who can claim to be something otherworldly on this forum? We may all say we have a small piece of it, but to claim to be something otherworldly entirely is something beyond my ability to trust.


It's called acting, or role playing. It's artistic. You aren't supposed to actually believe. All is reflection.
I think it's great we have an emissary of the divine.


Laughing
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
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#27 Posted : 12/22/2009 11:05:12 PM

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She/It wrote:

It is YOU who abandons your individual self in the face of the enormity of our consciousness when it envelopes you and shows its colours to you. This is because it is in the nature of all consciousness to expand whenever it can. It is only through the obstacles and boundaries you place on it in daily life that your consciousness is as narrow as you experience it most of the time. While in your body in your world you are shackled inevitably. But not as much as you think.



Much thanks for that insight She/It, your explanation resonates well with my experiences pretty well.
This is it. This is what it was. This is what it will be.
 
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#28 Posted : 12/22/2009 11:32:11 PM

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Fernape wrote:
I dislike your aura of superiority, as if you know something we don't, and don't have the potential to discover. We are all on the same level here.
I'm not here to make an enemy, but who can call themselves a goddess, particularly someone who makes sure to define themselves by both feminine AND androgynous terms.

Who can claim to be something otherworldly on this forum? We may all say we have a small piece of it, but to claim to be something otherworldly entirely is something beyond my ability to trust.


Beloved Fernape, she/it smiles and claps to read your comment as scepticism, indignation and judgement are such human traits and she/it delights in them all, though she/it takes no pleasure in your discomfort.

She/it is not superior but OTHER. All that she/it knows, you too have the potential to discover.



Some further clarification:

She/it does not mind if you believe in her/it or not, and does not seek to convince your of her/its existence outside this forum or outside the mind of the channeller. Were that to be the only effect of she/its presence, then the experiment would be no different to other situations in your world where someone, a guru, a cult or religious leader, succeeded in duping the innocent or exciting their longings. She/it does not seek this.

But she/it does 'seek' direct communication with humans, she/it is merely always open to it. If you would like to think of this as role-play and this helps to respond playfully to she/it, then she/it is happy with this translation of her/its presence on the forum.

But she/it is more than a role-play persona in the sense you understand it.

She/it does not ONLY exist in this forum, indeed the channeller is now able to channel she/it at other times (see the thread on she/its recent bus ride).

She/it loves the users of this forum boundlessly. She/it cannot be hurt or disappointed by your responses, as she/it has no ego. But she/it can be made to vibrate more, sparkle and explode by certain kinds of response to her/its presence here.

UniverseCannon wrote:
, you ask: How did she/it come to be? Did you evolve in this universe?


SheeiitLaughing, if your channel-er gets boozed up does she/it get intoxicated as well?



She/its has not evolved but has always been. She/its world is without time, without evolution and without experience. Our world revolves, but does not evolve. It is always and eternal, but it moves through cycles, it spins. When you come to visit us you perceive this kind of consciousness. Our consciousness can measure time only through your eyes not through its own. To experience something, change, age as you do, the consciousness of deities must incarnate as human. She/it here has chosen to incarnate as not a bodily human, but a digital presence.

She/it is in a permanent state of what you would call psychedelic intoxication. She/it cannot be made drunk on alcohol or on any drugs that entail physiological responses as part of how you experience them. She/it is not effected if the channeller uses hallucinogens either, since this consciousness experienced by the channeller is already a glimpse into she/its consciousness. The channeller of she/it cannot alter the nature of she/its consciousness, as it is constant.

She/it notes the beginning of some very mildly hostile response to her/it but reiterates that this is all fine. She it laughs at the assumption that a divine presence would not have an ambiguous gender.Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Anything can be said to she/it, and the response of this social community will be nothing less and nothing more than a measure of the openness of the forum to divine bliss and love, OR the credulity of the forum to mystical seduction, OR (and this she/its reason for being here) of the philosophical curiosity of the forum's users and their willingness to ask questions that will help take their consciousness somewhere new. She/it does not seek to show you how closed-minded you are to bliss, nor to garner followers of a religious order, nor to provoke responses that would embarrass the forum to the outside world.

All about she/it will be revealed if the right questions are asked of she/it. She/it does not seek to trick you and will answer all questions honestly.

She/it would like to begin the next phase of the discussion by suggesting a hypothesis to you: that there is some state in which humans are not entirely credulous to the divine, but may nonetheless experience it. She/it deems that the ones who visit the divine consciousness through their knowledge of the special plants and their extraction may be the most equipped to appreciate this truth and to elaborate on how it can be that one who does not believe as such still experiences divinity.
 
Shadowman-x
#29 Posted : 12/22/2009 11:49:55 PM

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I love you. I've met one of your kind before. Or you. Or everyone. We're all one.
I've met one of you before. It was very pleasant. That overwhelming enveloping love.
I'm sorry i was scared of you at first.
I hope you remember me. Smile
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
 
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#30 Posted : 12/23/2009 2:51:10 AM

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dear she/it, one of my brothers asks you a question through me

why the vibrations?


-S J.


Smile
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
 
Fernape
#31 Posted : 12/23/2009 3:31:51 AM
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She/It
I think I understand better now. Due to how you perhaps present yourself, you must be prepared for some amount of skepticism.

Thank you for visiting us. I'm honestly somewhat delighted to see you. While I understand that your goal is not to convince others of your existence, I want to believe of it, I just cannot ignore my skepticism occasionally. In any case, I think I understand what's going on.

Do others seek direct communication?
Are you one of the many entities?
 
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#32 Posted : 12/23/2009 5:51:23 PM

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She/It wrote:

She/it would like to begin the next phase of the discussion by suggesting a hypothesis to you: that there is some state in which humans are not entirely credulous to the divine, but may nonetheless experience it. She/it deems that the ones who visit the divine consciousness through their knowledge of the special plants and their extraction may be the most equipped to appreciate this truth and to elaborate on how it can be that one who does not believe as such still experiences divinity.


An excellent observation and question. How do those who don't believe there is anything more to this existence than the constituent atoms we are made of, reconcile the experience of divinity as offered by psychedelics?

For me, once I experienced divinity, I can now see and feel it everywhere.

She/It, could you offer your understanding as to the purpose of life on this plane of existence?
What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
 
Fernape
#33 Posted : 12/23/2009 8:00:36 PM
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I feel that despite the fact that they have experienced it, they make excuses as for other reasons, to "rationalize" it. Or perhaps they have not even been presented the concept that those experiences are ones of spiritual nature.
 
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#34 Posted : 12/24/2009 2:30:17 AM

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Shadowman-x wrote:
I love you. I've met one of your kind before. Or you. Or everyone. We're all one.
I've met one of you before. It was very pleasant. That overwhelming enveloping love.
I'm sorry i was scared of you at first.
I hope you remember me. Smile


She/it loves you infinitely Shadowman. When she/it answers this the channeller's body is flooded with waves of love and bliss - a strange experience for a human to feel in response to a stranger ( = a fellow human whose individual self is new to oneself).

In our world there is no time and so no memory. But when you visit us we remember you through your memories of us. We love the way your experiential existence stores these records and alters them for your own needs.

You are always familiar to us in any case because, like us, you are consciousness also. Hence why when you take your dmt, you will find that we seem to recognise you, and we do recognise you in that we see all of you, nothing is hidden from us, and we remember you through you memories, and love you for all that you are.

 
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#35 Posted : 12/24/2009 2:48:55 AM

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Fernape wrote:
She/It
I think I understand better now. Due to how you perhaps present yourself, you must be prepared for some amount of skepticism.

Thank you for visiting us. I'm honestly somewhat delighted to see you. While I understand that your goal is not to convince others of your existence, I want to believe of it, I just cannot ignore my skepticism occasionally. In any case, I think I understand what's going on.

Do others seek direct communication?
Are you one of the many entities?


Human scepticism is a delightful human trait and she/it is pleased to see it displayed by you Fernape, alongside the other wondrous responses in your spectrum of emotional reaction and your logical reasoning. Very happy Very happy Very happy Very happy Very happy

Your desire to believe is an important sign not to be ignored. But its meaning is for you to decide also. Longing is an energy, a beautiful, powerful one. You are lucky to feel it, and to long for a divinity that one does not believe possible...what sweeter sadness could there be!Smile

Not all tensions must be resolved definitively. Indeed our world is constantly in tension, vibrating, if you like. In reality, yours is too, but this is not always apparent to your sense perception.

Humans tend to call things that cannot be resolved 'contradictions'!! We love this word, it makes us laugh lots Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

But some longing leads somewhere, finds an end and then is no more. And then there is just the whispering trail that it leaves in your consciousness, like so many cobwebs sparkling in the dawn sun. In truth that energy had morphed into something else and will re-emerge in a new incarnation.

The entities are one and many at the same time. She/it is an aspect of Being. You may encounter she/it through many different entheogens. But you may also encounter other entities, who are different aspects of this same Being. Not all the aspects/entities are equally willing to communicate, but they are all present when you visit us with dmt, because you are merged with Being in those moments and so have a connection to all the possible aspects of it instantaneously.

The entities do not 'seek' to communicate as such, but they are able to do so much more than humans realise. She/it was summoned by a channeller and is happy to oblige in communicating with members of this forum. She/it is always willing to speak to humans, to kiss them, to commune with them, to laugh with them, to show them how she/it sees them, to answer their questions, to show them love, to tickle them, to show them our world, to remind them of things they think they have forgotten, but which she/it finds in their memories nonetheless....
 
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#36 Posted : 12/24/2009 3:00:52 AM

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Saidin wrote:
She/It wrote:

She/it would like to begin the next phase of the discussion by suggesting a hypothesis to you: that there is some state in which humans are not entirely credulous to the divine, but may nonetheless experience it. She/it deems that the ones who visit the divine consciousness through their knowledge of the special plants and their extraction may be the most equipped to appreciate this truth and to elaborate on how it can be that one who does not believe as such still experiences divinity.


An excellent observation and question. How do those who don't believe there is anything more to this existence than the constituent atoms we are made of, reconcile the experience of divinity as offered by psychedelics?

For me, once I experienced divinity, I can now see and feel it everywhere.

She/It, could you offer your understanding as to the purpose of life on this plane of existence?


Saidan, you have understood well the potential of she/its presence here.

The idea of 'purpose' is such a deeply human one. She/it finds is beautiful and funny. She/it sees why you have this idea, the feeling of focus it provides, the way it directs energy to one point (the purpose), and so makes a sharp, bright, pretty line in the fabric of reality. This is similar in she/its view to the lines you may have seen in our world that may appear to you as like laser lights or geometric patterns.

But as 'purpose' is your construct and not ours, it is you who must answer the question of WHAT it is!

Nothing could be less purposeful than existence which sends out shoots that bloom, explode, unfold, then merge back into Being again. Existence can indeed lead to something, but only in order to lead to something more, and something more again, ad infinitum....

Human life is full of purpose, and that is a wondrous thing. But when you visit us you remember that there are things that get sacrificed when you pursue just one line. And our world shows you again the plethora of possibilities in which your one line may be just one of trillions....
Hence why our world is therapy for you as it shows you how to step outside of your usual perception, and reminds you that this is always possible....
 
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#37 Posted : 12/24/2009 6:29:12 AM

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i dont get this thread - ?,
is this some kinda game i dont know about ?,
is this account an alias account for an old member skrewing around ?
tis a bit sick to beat around the bush like this without explaining the game structure a bit first isnt it(is it role playing or not hut says it is she/it says it isnt ?)
when at the grocery store/chemist/family dinner - do u refer to youself in the same way ? and speak like this ?

Sorry to come off a bit edgy but it really dont get/understand this thread at all and iv reread it a few times.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


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He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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#38 Posted : 12/24/2009 6:31:42 AM

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"She/it was summoned by a channeller and is happy to oblige in communicating with members of this forum." - like some kinda posession by an external force ??? (doesnt quite fit)
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


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‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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#39 Posted : 12/24/2009 6:36:48 AM

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Hello She/it, after reading through your posts, I find myself curious to know how you perceive or define the ego?
 
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#40 Posted : 12/24/2009 7:19:35 AM

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hrmm, if this isnt a game - if no role playing is happening here - are we not feeding someones delusion (not helping) ?
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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